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Doug
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Infinitely Adjustable Line Out Controls?
05/09/19 at 19:39:49
 
Has anyone heard of a CSP3 with smooth action controls for line out? †If not, is it even possible?
Doug
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Re: Infinitely Adjustable Line Out Controls?
Reply #1 - 05/10/19 at 00:22:44
 
Are you referring to the "stepped" controls that come on the CSP3 stock?  I'm not sure what advantage there would be to a smooth control since these aren't really stepped attenuators.  Although they have steps, they can be set in between the detents to fine tune the balance.  

Not sure if this is what you meant.
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Reply #2 - 05/10/19 at 14:43:06
 
Oh, I didnít realize that the voltage output was changed in between steps. †That might work for me.....IĎll try it this evening. †The reason for my question is that when I am using my LFD amp (that doesnít have a volume control for each channel like my Torii Jr has) there is no way to control balance. †I have intentionally avoided dual volume controls for decades, but having had them on my Torii Jr for the past year and a half, I find that I canít live without them. †Badly balanced recordings can be easily adjusted, and imbalances caused by tube issues can also be adjusted. †Iím wondering if there is even room for some type of smooth action line out controls on a 25th CSP3. †
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Reply #3 - 05/10/19 at 15:56:36
 
The detent attenuators likely could be changed for smooth but these work well for me since they are easy to put to the same level and then tweaked between the detents as required. †I often have a slight channel imbalance (seems to come and go) that requires up to a full click on one side or the other. †Half and quarter clicks aren't a problem. †One thing I did do though was put small knobs with index lines on the posts so it's easy to turn the knobs and see where I am on each.
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Reply #4 - 05/14/19 at 01:40:44
 
Archie, I have experienced the coming and going channel imbalance phenomenon for years, and Iíve always thought it was my faulty hearing, or my warped mind, or my less than perfect system, or possibly all three. †Itís really good to know Iím not alone in this perplexing issue!

Thanks for the additional information on the CSP3ís output flexibility. †Iíll contact Steve some time this week to check on having smooth line out controls installed.
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Reply #5 - 05/15/19 at 16:51:44
 
Hi, just lurking here. What size is the shaft on the op pots?
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Reply #6 - 05/16/19 at 00:37:22
 
I think they are 1/4" diameter.
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Re: Infinitely Adjustable Line Out Controls?
Reply #7 - 06/01/19 at 12:54:44
 
i like the steps then i know where i am at by the number of clicks.

for my amp i am 2 clicks back from 100%.

inputs are always 100% unless using headphones
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Re: Infinitely Adjustable Line Out Controls?
Reply #8 - 06/04/19 at 04:02:24
 
When driving my Torii Jr with the CSP3-25 I very much like the stepped output controls, as the Jr has a smooth volume control for each channel. †Itís when driving my solid state LFD NCSE amp that I would like see smooth action output controls on the CSP3-25. †I talked with Steve a few days ago and told him I canít live without dual volume controls now that I have had them on my Torii Jr the past 18 months. †Steve just laughed and told me that many people feel the same once they have used a piece of equipment with dual smooth action volume controls. †He also told me that he would be happy to change out the stepped output controls for infintely adjustable controls!
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