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Tommy Freefall
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DACs: Schiit vs TEAC
06/29/18 at 23:40:20
 
The Schiit DACs seem to be very respected on this forum. And the TEAC NT-503 is currently Steve’s reference.
The Schiit Gungnir and the Teac NT-503 are not that far apart in price.
I wonder if anyone has experience with both?
And can share their thoughts?...
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Re: DACs: Schiit vs TEAC
Reply #1 - 06/30/18 at 07:39:59
 
I'm  standing by for thoughts as well.  I know that Schiit is pretty respected, but wow their DAC's tests on  Audio Science Review are pretty off putting.  I don't think he ever tested the Gungnir, but  if the TOTL Yggy tested so bad,  well ...

The TEAC NT-503 tested better, but there were still some issues.  

I know that testing isn't everything, but when you look at Steve's test measurements for his amps they all test pretty good … shouldn't the sources we use also test just as good if not better considering you want the most accurate reproduction possible?  Then on the other hand, maybe we like the distortion of the Schiit stuff, perhaps it's pleasant to our ears in some way? Undecided
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Re: DACs: Schiit vs TEAC
Reply #2 - 06/30/18 at 16:10:53
 
I don't have a direct comparison on the two units you mention but I will say I have been a long time fan of Teac/Esoteric/Tascam. Doing research on the T/E/T equipment you will find they provide a wealth of information on the products and how they are built. The Teac products benefit from trickle down tech from Esoteric and their music industry division as well so I don't think you can go wrong on the Teac unit.
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Re: DACs: Schiit vs TEAC
Reply #3 - 06/30/18 at 20:39:46
 
Beowulf, you're right - wow. All the Schiits at ASR test poorly. And not just a little bit. Very shocked to see that. Surely the high levels of noise they generate is not contributing to that analog-like sound that people praise them for?
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Re: DACs: Schiit vs TEAC
Reply #4 - 07/16/18 at 21:26:39
 
I had a hard time deciding between the Teac NT-503 and the Schiit Multibit. I ultimately decided to get the cheapest Schiit Multibit, the Modi Multibit. I was absolutely stunned by it and haven’t considered anything other than Multibit since. After hearing it I was no longer interested in listening to my Uber Bifrost and eventually had it upgraded to Multibit. I also eventually purchased Gungir Multibit for my main system and couldn’t be happier with it.

That being said the Teac has sounded excellent at all the Decfests I’ve heard it at, and when I went to pick up the OTL Steve played a song using the Teac that I seriously thought was coming from one of his tape machines. It would be hard to think of a higher complement for any DAC.

I think it really comes down to personal preference and without hearing both of them it’s impossible to know which you’d prefer. I would recommend buying the Modi Multibit to try it out if you are seriously interested in it. You’ll know pretty quickly if Multibit is the direction you’d want to go or not. Also, and this goes for any Schiit DAC, they have to be broken in to sound good! I don’t even listen to new ones for two weeks, I just turn them on, play music through them either with the amp off or not even hooked up to an amp. They also need to be warm to sound their best, someone that just turns it on for a listening session will never hear its potential. They should really be left on all the time.

So the reason the Schiit Multibit really impresses me is most noticeable in cymbals. They sound far more real and accurate than I’ve ever heard from any other DAC. Although I think this quality is apparent throughout the music it has been most noticeable in cymbals. A song I really like to use to test how a DAC handles cymbals is Coming Home by Ulver on the album The Assassination of Julius Caesar. When I listened to this on a system with a Teac NT-503 it was really like part of the song was missing.

Also to get the most out of Teac or Schiits with balanced outputs a ZBIT or equivalent is a must.
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