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Re: 25th Anniversary Zen Triode Amplifier
Reply #750 - 10/19/18 at 19:41:43
 
So, I just put the order for the SE84UFO25! †Now the wait starts! †Am I supposed not to sleep till I receive it? †:)

Upon the tube comments I received here, I asked for the amp to be shipped without the tube complement. †I can always get them at a later stage anyway. †Also, no volume controls for me... †I try to keep it as simple as possible, and I will be driving it with a high-gain preamp anyway, and would like to control the volume from there.

Please keep an eye on the stuff I will be putting on sale on the Classifieds section to finance this. †I will have a TABOO mkIII and a ZBIT on sale. †Also, as time to receive the amp gets closer, my SE84UFO will be available. †Just FYI...

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Reply #751 - 10/20/18 at 05:28:45
 
Alper,

As hard as it may be try to get some sleep now, because you may not be able to after you get it!
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Reply #752 - 10/20/18 at 18:44:16
 
Alper, pm'd on the ZBIT.
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Reply #753 - 10/20/18 at 20:14:06
 
PM'ed back Jim.  Thanks...

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Reply #754 - 10/23/18 at 15:24:26
 
Closing in on 200 hrs on the UFO25.
And... this thing is doing some magic on some LP's that I love but, felt a bit disappointed in the LP's engineering. I expected a bigger badder sound stage that in the past just didn't happen to the degree I expected!
So, last night I spin Genesis "the lamb lies down on broadway" and presto change-o & wahlahhhh a detailed big ballsy presentation with awesome bass with details and depth like I've never heard, but always dreamed of....at last!! Also putting a smile on my face were: WAR "eric burdon declares war" &  Savoy Brown "raw sienna". A smile from ear to ear is a pale description of my enjoyment.
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Reply #755 - 10/23/18 at 15:54:32
 
Yes, the amps keep getting better and better. All those caps burn in, settle, and BOOM! These amps are an adventure . . . they engage you the way few other components can or will. Each tube, cable, footer . . . that's all like a kaleidoscope. And recordings you thought you knew are no longer the same.

Now there is just not enough hours in the day.
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Reply #756 - 10/27/18 at 11:19:57
 
By the way, we can use the 6N1P, 6N2P, 6N5P and any 6922 variety on this as an input tube, right?
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Reply #757 - 10/27/18 at 15:15:18
 
Yes! I'm using 7308 in my 25th Anniversary Monoblocks.
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Reply #758 - 10/29/18 at 14:53:40
 
You can also use a 6BQ7.
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Reply #759 - 10/31/18 at 03:17:37
 
Here is a TIDAL playlist of the songs Steve references in this thread:

https://tidal.com/playlist/7a15fde2-6fbd-4cf9-8741-dbb400361dd5
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Reply #760 - 11/03/18 at 23:55:36
 
Finally made up my mind and ordered a SE84UFO25 along with a ZBIT to mate with my ZTPRE.
I can't wait to see how well they power my 107dB 18 ohm horns.
The horns only respond down to 170 Hz, the bottom end is handled by self amplified SUB225 bass units.
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Reply #761 - 11/04/18 at 00:02:39
 
Congrats Derrick!  I would love to hear those Avantgarde Omega horns powered by the ZTPRE, ZBIT, and Anniversary Zen.  I can't imagine it being anything other than stunning with the system you are piecing together.  

Those are gorgeous horns and I have always been intrigued by their products, but have not had an opportunity to hear them live.  

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Re: 25th Anniversary Zen Triode Amplifier
Reply #762 - 11/10/18 at 22:49:44
 
UFO25 closing in on 300 hours and has settled down to giving day in, and day out, consistent beautiful music. I had asked Steve about upgrading my Monoliths and he said they are fine. He said the ZP3, Zrock2 & Zstage are now the weak links in the chain. Glad he posted the upgrade list.
So, I will start with the ZP3 upgrade first. Then the Zrock2. Zstage will be left as is since system sounds fine without it in the loop. Zrock2 is still needed on those recordings with wimpy bass!!
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Reply #763 - 11/10/18 at 23:04:03
 
Ace, yes, this new listing has me wondering how to afford a few upgrades! I think I'll order a new ZROCK2 with all the mods and then use the one I have in my second system. I am thinking of getting my Torii Mk II modded, and then use that in my second system and then sell the Torii Mk III that I have as well and alternate in that system. They both safe fantastic amps but the Mk III should be easier to sell.

And then there's the conditioner. . . . I would like to try one on my analog components, which just happen to total six, matching the outlets. Hmmm. This will spur me to sell guitars and basses and instrument amps. . . I could sell a dozen. . . and still have a dozen! Anyone looking or something in that category. . . Wink

Exciting time for Decware fans! But not for our wallets. . . .
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Re: 25th Anniversary Zen Triode Amplifier
Reply #764 - 11/11/18 at 00:12:32
 
Hey Lon,

   I hear you on selling instruments to fund audio equip. Since starting my Decware journey nearly 5 years ago I've sold a few of my old classics (guitars - acoustics & electrics) that I never took out of the house anymore. Once the band broke up it was time to get some cash for the Man Cave/ rehearsal room / recording room....now, just an audio man cave/ Decware room.
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Reply #765 - 11/11/18 at 12:54:01
 
Acetone wrote on 11/11/18 at 00:12:32:
Hey Lon,

† †I hear you on selling instruments to fund audio equip. Since starting my Decware journey nearly 5 years ago I've sold a few of my old classics (guitars - acoustics & electrics) that I never took out of the house anymore. Once the band broke up it was time to get some cash for the Man Cave/ rehearsal room / recording room....now, just an audio man cave/ Decware room.

Yes Ace. . . I'm finally readying myself to sell some of my instruments. It's hard! I don't like to part with things and get attached to them. But arthritis is setting in, especially in my left hand, and I just can't/don't play as much as I did before. I have some instruments I'll never sell, but about half of what I have could go away and fund mods for my audio systems. We'll see. I may put a few up for consignment in Cleveland which would save me from advertising and shipping etc. Wish me luck, I've "meant" to do this many times and haven't!
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Reply #766 - 11/30/18 at 03:12:12
 

Looking forward to spending some consecutive time with my 25th Anniversary Zen Triode amplifier... †Every time we build one I have to give up my amp for the bench sample to be meticulously duplicated. †Obviously I am going to build myself one so they can just keep it for a bench sample like most of the other amps. †Problem is we've been too busy and after this recent surge of orders I can see the only way I'll get one any time soon is to build it myself during the late evening hours... Just like I did the first one.

I QC'd #38 today. †

So now you know the reason for "Final Listening Room Evaluation" on the build sheet... I have been listening to all of your amps instead of my own, each one for a day or two and then on to the next.

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Reply #767 - 12/03/18 at 18:38:20
 
Went in for a knee replacement a couple of weeks ago and for the first time in about three weeks listened to my system.  The shine hasnít worn off and the UFO25 still stops me dead in my tracks.  I did make one change that I thought would be worthwhile posting about...

My renovation is now complete and in a couple of weeks the system is going int itís new home.  My Digital Cable wasnít going to be long enough so I would have to get another.  The cable that I have was made by Take Five Audio with Neotech silver 75 ohm cable and WBT silver 75 ohm RCAís.  In my opinion it is a good to very good cable but before buying another I thought I would check around and came across the following review: Best Digital Coaxial Cables - Audio Bacon.

Among the cables reviewed a couple caught my attention one of which was Snake River Audio, Boomslang.  A little more than I wanted to spend but it was risk free so I sprung for one and tried it today.  (It did cook for 200 hours before I got it and still needs some burn in)

The reviewer pretty much nailed it in his review so I wonít get into the details other than to say it is replacing my TFA cable.  A couple of noteworthy observations:  In comparison the TFA had a certain treble glare that I didnít notice until now.  The Boomslang produces beautifully balanced results giving enough of everything with voices and separation that are the best yet in my system.

If your looking at getting a very good digital cable this one is worth putting on a short list and an amp like the UFO25 deserves something like this IMO.



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Reply #768 - 12/03/18 at 20:03:49
 
Hope you are recuperating well from your surgery John, and congrats on the Boomslang! Glad it worked out so very well!
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Reply #769 - 12/03/18 at 22:01:39
 
Hey Lon,

Yes I am, mutch better than expected.  Iím fortunate enough to live close enough to a world class Orthapedic & Arthritic Hospital.  From start to finish the team was outsdanding.  I went in on the 19th and was home on the 21st.  Now Iím walking only using a cane on stairs and to get in and out of the car.

The recuperation involves exercise and a healthy dose of music from my system.  Got the UFO25 just in time!
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Reply #770 - 12/03/18 at 22:41:15
 
Great news! And yeah, these 25th Anniversary amps. . .wow they sound so good!

Was your Take Five Audio the Deluxe version? I think so as I think that's the silver one. I have it and it works really well for me. I'm going to pretend I never heard of your new one. Wink
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Reply #771 - 12/03/18 at 23:25:31
 
Yes, it was the Deluxe version.  I have had it for some time and liked it a lot as well.  If I didnít need a longer cable I probably would not have looked around.  In fact I could have saved a few $$$ because Gene was willing to use the existing WBT RCAís and put a longer length on.

The ďglareĒ only became evident in direct comparison (damn!) and the fuller or weightier presentation was also evident.  There are still things that in someways I prefer with the TFA, the attack for example is one.

Some things are more obvious with the TFA which made me think that something was missing with the Boomslang.  Then I realized that nothing was missing in fact there was more but presented in a better over all balance.

The difference with the vocals were very obvious favouring the Boomslang.  

I think that the TFA did a slightly better job with soundstage depth and as important as that is to me the balance of the Boomslang won out.  Now I still have to put a few more hours on the Boomslang so weíll see.

I need to spend more time with the Boomslang but you know when you get this gut feeling and you just know itís going to stay, and yes I tried to ignore it as well Cry
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Reply #772 - 12/03/18 at 23:28:22
 
Lon, did I read somewhere that you were setting up a second system??  Ahem....
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Reply #773 - 12/03/18 at 23:31:14
 
Yes, I know what you mean, sounds like it's a great cable.

I'd be inclined to move from the TFA if I didn't use the DirectStream Memory Player so much and its HDMI/I2S connection. I use the TFA for my Oppo UDP-205 into the DirectStream DAC and it's always hi-res content and it sounds really good, so good that I won't spend the money now to try to improve it. Later on, if money's there. . . it's possible!

Keep recuperating and enjoy the listening!
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Reply #774 - 12/03/18 at 23:36:17
 
Ha ha. I've been playing around with a bunch of components in the second system for over three years now, and before that I had two systems in my place, a system at my parents' and a system here which was then my girlfriend's home, now ours.

Don't use a digital output in my second system, go right from a Denon universal player into either the preamp or the amp.
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