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Anyone else waiting for mono zen amps?
12/27/16 at 01:32:58
 
Hi guys

Placed my order for a pair of these mono amps on Black Friday. Ordered them with upgraded caps and with the stepped attenuated as well. Since I live far from Decware I haven't heard them, but I'm pretty sure they are as good or even better than Select I heard a while back, and also a step up from the MiniTori I have and will keep. No pre-amp in this setup, not sure if will get one either, not for a while at least.

So if anyone else has bought a pair please chime in

I do wonder if it can be built with a meter on them though, I like the detail, but that will maybe be a mono select version later
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Reply #1 - 01/04/17 at 11:25:39
 
Emailed Steve a few days back. The reply was that with this chassis design, meters couldn't be added, but can be a possibility with a later design. The others part of the email was concerning the bias setting. Steve offered to add a bias setting switch or to build the amp with the aggressive setting. Since I haven't heard either setting and that I do not know what would be better in my system I decided to have the switch added to both amps. A little extra cost but now I don't have to wonder what would be better.

Now I am contemplating if I want to add a pre-amp, run long IC and shorter speaker cables.
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Reply #2 - 01/04/17 at 15:20:00
 
Keep us apprised of what you end up doing. I would love to hear those monos.

JD
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Reply #3 - 01/05/17 at 14:59:41
 
I will. I was just reading a thread about using the miniTorii as a pre. My first buy from Decware was a MT, and it's a keeper for sure, even when the mono amps come. Maybe the MT can be a pre and find out  if the Mono's appreciate a pre-amp? Should it be used with the ordinary tubes?
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Reply #4 - 01/06/17 at 01:33:35
 
I thought that Decware keeps a list of what everybody ordered. You might see somebody on there who is waiting but won't post on the forums. These are not a high volume item because most folks look at the cost, currently around $2400 per pair and see 2.7 watts and go "hmmmm?" Is it worth it? Especially when you can get a 20 watt Torii Jr., for the same price; a 4 watt Mini Torii or a 6 watt Rachel for less.

One has to be a purist to want these mono blocks. The magic of the Super Zen and its new UFO version is undeniable. So I can see why a few would want to take that to the logical final highest level which is found in the mono blocks.

I think that Steve should offer the mono blocks in a single chassis with meters and adjustable bias. Maybe a Rachel sized platform would do.

As to bias, I liked the hot bias setting in my Super Zen when I had it. It just is more alive sounding.
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Reply #5 - 01/06/17 at 03:21:53
 
Hi RR
Yeah you're right, I can probably find other buyers if I need to. When I was waiting for my ZP3 last spring I found my 2014 MT purchase way down on the list. And I totally agree with you, one can get more watts for less even at Decware. I really like the mini Tori a lot, and shouldn't actually need more gear,  but then on the other side I have read so much positive reviews of the zen and wanted a little something special. I don't need more watts either, I'm waiting for custom pair of Omega high output speakers, with alnico drivers instead of the 4inch drivers used in the Decware/Omega project. I have my hope up that this combo will be a cool upgrade, even if playing in the same park.
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Reply #6 - 01/07/17 at 16:47:32
 
Jorgan- Please keep us informed when the amps arrive. I would love to hear Omega's with Alnico drivers sometime. I do enjoy the heck outta our  Super 7XRS mk2's and going up to the Alnico drives would have been too much $$$(have to keep the bike running well also) but maybe someday. Very interested in hearing about your system. Happy listening, Chris.
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Reply #7 - 01/09/17 at 18:48:25
 
Hi HD
Yeah I guess a Harley cost a lot, up here I would expect 3000USD just to get a license.... I'm running the MT with 7"alnico drivers today, also from Louis. A 1.5 HO will be different, and with new amps a totally new setup. It seems the amps will be finish earlier than expected so I have treat soon to come.

Reading up on tubes and looking to get a few to roll, it's a pretty expensive hobby. I have a trick up my sleeve whenever my wife raises an eyebrow though, whatever I buy and she wonders the cost I say 500, no matter what.
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Reply #8 - 01/10/17 at 21:55:01
 
Reading up on tubes and looking to get a few to roll, it's a pretty expensive hobby. I have a trick up my sleeve whenever my wife raises an eyebrow though, whatever I buy and she wonders the cost I say 500, no matter what.

Jorgen,

And that works?  

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Reply #9 - 01/11/17 at 01:05:00
 
Ehhh well she's a PhD graduate... so not born behind a barn. Maybe its more like the male equivalent to: it was on sale, I saved a lot...
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Reply #10 - 01/23/17 at 19:51:17
 
The Mono's are now on bench, and I checked the waiting list, and from what I can tell, I'm actually the only one so far to order these...so this will be a lonely thread...

Still looking for tubes for some rolling, is the 6922 tube the one with most impact on sound?
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Reply #11 - 01/23/17 at 20:54:20
 
Jorgen, yes that is my finding.  I have a pair of 2008 monoblocks with beeswax caps and other upgrades.  I have the Russian output tubes in, a 50's RCA 5U4G rectifier and I think 50's RCA OA3s.  In the input position I've tried a bunch of things but my favorites are the Amperex 6DJ8, 6299 and 7308...all white labels.  But a good cheap tube is the Chinese tube Steve recommended for 20 bucks shipped for a pair.  Mark.
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Reply #12 - 01/23/17 at 21:10:29
 
Agree with Mark. My fav of all time is Amperex 7308 made in USA with USN CEP written on the tube. Recently noticed that the top of the tube is also crimped. I think they would be awesome in your application.
Would love to jump on the mono wagon but funds do not allow.

JD
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Reply #13 - 01/23/17 at 21:15:54
 
In my opinion in such a simple circuit every tube matters and will influence the sound of the whole complement. I recommend burning the amp in with the tubes supplied and then experimenting with each tube type over time.
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Reply #14 - 01/23/17 at 23:52:23
 
You are spot on to my plan, but I have a need to have replacement tubes for each spot just in case and I might aswell get some which are an upgrade it at least different. I do trust Decware to supply a good combination, but gonna get some that's interesting.
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