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MarkR7
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Show us your favorite CSP3 / CSP2+ Tube Combo!
12/22/16 at 22:29:49
 
Hey folks, the CSP3 / CSP2+ have been out in use for a long while now, and there are many tube rolling posts here and elsewhere in cyber space (my head's spinning!).

I thought it would be a good idea (hope you do as well!) to collect all your "best" / "favorite" combinations here, so that a CSP2+ newbie, like me, can really narrow down tubes to our listening preferences.

How about we use this format:
Input Tube:
L/R  Output Tubes:
Rectifier:
Use: (e.g. Preamp, Headphones, or Both)
Sonic Description: (e.g. describe your sound with any adjective like airy, transparent, dynamic, lush, full, holographic, 3D, fast, forward, laid back, etc., etc.)

You get the idea! I will happily post once I get my CSP2+ and get to play with tubes in it.
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Re: Show us your favorite CSP3 / CSP2+ Tube Combo!
Reply #1 - 12/25/16 at 16:27:31
 
i'll start...  been running this combo with no desire to change anything for over 8-10months in my csp3.

Input Tube: nos Amperex 7308 orange label
L/R  Output Tubes: nos Mullard ECC88/6DJ8
Rectifier: nos Mullard 5AR4 metal base
Use: both
Sonic Description: transparent, laid back, detailed.  great stage and depth.
Input gain: 8
Output gain: 6 (ie 12 oclock)
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Reply #2 - 01/11/17 at 03:16:46
 
Thanks Trip.... with all the CSP2s and 3s out there, I'm kinda surprised at the lack of responses.... oh well Sad

I am getting closer to "my" sound, so I will post my favorite tube choices soon.
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Re: Show us your favorite CSP3 / CSP2+ Tube Combo!
Reply #3 - 01/11/17 at 15:18:39
 
I'll weigh in about my CSP2+ (beeswax caps, stepped attenuator):

Input Tube: Valvo CCa
L/R  Output Tubes: Valvo CCa
Rectifier: RCA 5Y3G
Use: I use the CSP2+ as both a headphone amp (fed currently by my Cambridge Audio CXU) and as a preamp for my ZP3. I don't use it as many do to "shape the sound" of the Torii, I never could get it to be transparent and uncompressed that way though I tried. I use it more as a traditional preamp for the ZP3, and as a headphone amp for my Oppo PM-1 (works splendidly with those phones, better than the Taboo Mk III I have for my Audeze LCD-2.)
Sonic Description: I found these Valvo (probably made by Siemens) CCa on ebay and these with the 5Y3G rectifier (old RCA, this tube type seems to give the most accurate playback in the CSP2+ for my system) really give a very close signature to the Amperex 7308s I use in the Torii Mk III. The other input on the Torii is used with my PS Audio DirectStream DAC, and that input gets the most use for CD, SACD, Blu-ray, DVD and DVR sound. I like the CSP2+ with this tube complement as a headphone and vinyl source--quick, detailed, not at all harsh.
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Reply #4 - 01/29/17 at 19:53:33
 
just doing some tube trouble shooting and put in my stock 6N1P's.  Not too bad at all.  Funny how start somewhere and come back around to it years later.

Running nos amprex 7308's in all 3 positions currently.  never tried this combo.  real sweet!  very nice mid range detail with good snap/punch (if you like that).
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Reply #5 - 01/29/17 at 21:04:13
 
So, after a bunch of listening and tube rolling, I have fallen hard for this combination:

Input Tube: Amperex 7308 (orange globe)
L/R  Output Tubes: Siemens Rohre E288CC
Rectifier: Mazda 5y3gb (ST bottle type)
Use: Preamp only
Sonic Description: well, it seems like I can have my cake and eat it too! Is it possible to have the speed, detail, liveliness and an expansive soundstage in all directions, while maintaining an organic, natural sound that is both full and textured, AND dynamic? That's exactly how I would describe what I am hearing thru my CSP2+ (modded with the great sounding higher end Jupiter Copper Foil caps) now. Love it!
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Reply #6 - 02/22/17 at 15:26:04
 
Hopefully we can get some other folks to share in their favorite tube choices for the CSP2+ / CSP3 here....

Adding on to my previous post, here are my two favorite combinations; the first one being the best sounding (critical listening), but also the most expensive from a tube standpoint, and the second one being quite a bit cheaper, but great sounding and fun as well:

Input Tube: Amperex 7308 (orange globe)
L/R  Output Tubes: Siemens Rohre E288CC
Rectifier: Mullard GZ32
Use: Preamp only

Input Tube: Amperex 7308 (orange globe)
L/R  Output Tubes: Russian 6N1P-EV (early 70's)
Rectifier: Mazda or Dario Philips 5y3gb (ST bottle types)
Use: Preamp only

I should also state that my preamp has an upgraded fuse in it (a Synergistic Black fuse), and also using a Cerious Tech Graphene Extreme "Red" power cable on it.
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Reply #7 - 02/22/17 at 16:38:56
 
I'll add that I use a Furutech fuse, and a PS Audio PerfectWave AC-12 power cord. Interconnects used are VooDoo Cable Stradivarius and Stradivarius Cremona.
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Reply #8 - 05/14/17 at 21:53:57
 
I found this combination is excellent in my setup:

Telefunkin E188CC for the input
Cryoset 6N1P-EB as left and right outputs
Philips 5U4G rectifier tube

Excellent lingering highs and great bass.
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Reply #9 - 05/14/17 at 22:32:34
 
Here is what I am currently using in my Jupiter capped CSP3:

Input Tube: Amperex 7308 (white label)
L/R  Output Tubes: Russian 6N1P-E E88CC 3x MICA ~ CCa Tubes 1960`s Black Boxed Anode
Rectifier: Mullard GZ32 (early 1980's)
Use: Preamp only

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Re: Show us your favorite CSP3 / CSP2+ Tube Combo!
Reply #10 - 07/24/17 at 18:46:37
 
I swapped out my ZBIT for my CSP2+ and now I'm in love with the CSP2+ again. The ZBIT sounds great but since I understand the CSP2+ a bit more than ever I think I have found incredible sound with the preamp in the system feeding both my Torii Mk III and my Taboo Mk IV (this CSP2+ has dual stereo outputs and beeswax caps, the dual stereo outputs is great because the Taboo really shines when fed by the CSP2+).

I'm using as a rectifier an RCA bottle-shaped 5Y3 rectifier, and all three signal tubes are Amperex ECC189 tubes. I'm now using these tubes in the input positions of the Torii Mk III and the Taboo Mk IV as well.
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