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01/17/16 at 15:31:32
 
I was just about to order another pair from Upscale and they are no longer available…bummer!
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Reply #1 - 01/17/16 at 22:26:46
 
I wonder if Kevin pulled them because they were canabalizing other 6922's?

Or, he did run out (except for private stock of his own).

One hell of a tube .... I'm running a cryogenic pair and reg pair of them right now. If I can't get any more my ZMA WILL be for sale.

I will stick with my front end and Headphones.
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Reply #2 - 01/18/16 at 15:53:59
 
damn really?

i like those too.  currently run ediswan or ampres 7308 in the input of my csp3.  like them both a bunch.
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Reply #3 - 01/18/16 at 18:30:58
 
I hear you trip. Major damn?!
(No way I'm selling my ZMA).

I'm shelving my Cryo pair Edi's, that only have 100 hours on them. Keep the 700 hour pair in my ZMA Inputs.

I figure if they truly hang for 4500 hours....what? .....3 to 4 years on one pair then the other... .

Ordering some NOS Platinum ampres 7308 too....before they go the way of the Dodo bird.  

I also have some Cryoset 6N23N-EB's....that I enjoy very much in my ZMA Inputs.....they have also gone the way of the Dodo bird!
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Reply #4 - 01/18/16 at 18:41:52
 
Oh, don't confuse the 6N23P's that came with the ZMA....with 6N23N-EB's Cryogenic from Cryoset....totally different internal structure to the Tube....glad I snapped them up ASAP in Feb of  2014.

Wonderful ~ wonderful tube....almost like the Ediswan's, sitting on the inside texture of the hollow body guitar... . But, the Edi's got the special ~ special in the low end ....so well defined....freakin' mind blowing.... .
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Reply #5 - 01/18/16 at 19:11:31
 
So, I'm covered for 12-16 years.....timed out for the Methane release from the Polar Ice Cap melt!  Smoke um' if you got um' ....game over.
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Reply #6 - 01/18/16 at 20:10:24
 
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Reply #7 - 01/18/16 at 20:58:37
 
Yup, those are the ones/6N23P's, Steve sent out with the ZMA (not Cryogenic).

The matched Cryogenic Quad I bought (from Cryoset) for $100. ($25 each)....were the 6N23N-EB's. (....now would go for 35 to $50 each).

Different inards too/I like the EB's better. Maybe it's just the Cryo....but they surpass the EV's.
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Reply #8 - 01/18/16 at 21:19:03
 
Hold the presses!

I have the 6H23N-EB's (matched Quad).
Once again, not to be confused with the 6N23P-EV. Totally differerent inards.....I own both types...and the EB's sound WAY WAY better. I USE THE EV's for "bitch" duty....Phase Inverter's.

I bought from Cryoset Feb 2014.

You can still get them if you call Kevin by calling. BUT AS HE WRITES: "THEY ARE ALMOST GONE FOREVER".
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/6h23-6922-type-3/


NOT, by any means/are the EB's....Ediswan's (NOS Platinum/brand new)...but a damn good tube.....thus, you must call Kevin to get any of them now....what he has left.
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Reply #9 - 01/21/16 at 16:02:37
 
.....besides my thoughts in my first post, Kevin, might have pulled the Edi's for sale/with diminishing quantities....and one would have to call/qualify and inquire for a Pair.

Anyway, glad I have 2 Pair. ....getting some Bell 6922's!

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Reply #10 - 01/21/16 at 18:35:01
 
Stone, if those Bel's are anything like my Ameprex Holland made white label 6922s...you should love them.  Never heard the Bel's but have read the Holland made are better but maybe not worth the extra cash. Let us know how they compare to the Edwisans.  Mark.
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Reply #11 - 01/22/16 at 04:51:11
 
Will do. The extended highs have me intrigued. I trust the reviews on the BELS too. Real Philips SQ.
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Reply #12 - 01/26/16 at 15:15:48
 
Right now, I'm running Cryogenic Ediswan 6922's (pair) out of my CSP3, in to a pair of Cryoset 6H23N-EB's....for Inputs of ZMA. Absolutely stunning.



Bringing in a Pair of these guys too.

http://www.upscaleaudio.com/mullard-e188cc-7308/



NOS/Platinum/Ediswan's CV2492/6922 /Inputs = ZMA are breathtaking.............. .

*Also: Cryoset 6H23N-EB's, rotated in and out of Inputs/ZMA*
(Way different internal guts/halo/getter...they are NOT 6N23P-EV's)

NOS/Platinum/Telefunken 6922/E88CC for Input Tube/CSP3 ~ not taken for granted neither......... .

NOS/Platinum/Ediswan's CV2492/6922 /PRE Outputs of CSP3, running  into ZMA Inputs with Ediswan's = revelatory!
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Reply #13 - 01/28/16 at 21:13:00
 

Are these anything like the Eds you were talkinga bout?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pc-CV5358-6922-ECC88-EDISWAN-Audio-Tube-/201031165576

I didn't pick any up because I was super broke, and I'm kinda regretting it now. I've really worn out all my tubes, and some of my NOS went microphonic on me. Those Nationals I got where Meh at best.
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Reply #14 - 01/28/16 at 21:26:25
 
Yeah, I sold my National's.

Those Edi's in Mumbai, look like the same guts/getter/halo to halo. However, it's a risky proposition. Maybe not, Ediswan's CV2492/6922.
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Reply #15 - 02/22/16 at 17:26:50
 
I picked up a set of cryo'd 6H23N-EB's of inputs on the Torii.  Still early, but after about 20 hours, they are very nice.  Smooth, big soundstage.

Still to come (if they ever get here): Reflector 6n23ps - 1974, single wire getter, silver shield.
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Reply #16 - 02/22/16 at 17:38:33
 
Yes, I used to use these as inputs on the Torii and they're rather nice. I moved to 7308s however and I'm just addicted to those (Amperex brand) in the Torii. Recently I tried some of the cryo'd 6N23 in the CSP2+ and they're nice. . . but I missed the 7308s in use there too (I use an RCA ion the front and an unbranded NOS pair in the driver positions).

I find the cryo take a bit to break in and improve subtly as they break in.
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Reply #17 - 02/23/16 at 16:25:35
 
Has anyone tried the Telefunken PCC88/7DJ8 from Upscale yet? Ordered two platinum, but they only sent one......Kevin was PO'd about it, but has the second one on the way. These are going into my Torii Jr.
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Reply #18 - 02/23/16 at 18:47:18
 
Hekowee,

I have some Siemens labelled PCC88s that look like the same tube, though I am not clear on when these Telefunken labelled tubes were made by Siemens and dates/batches often matter. Mine seem to be the same construction though.

Here is an additional write up on the tube type: https://www.tubemuseum.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SIEMENS-PCC88

These are bold tubes that sound very well made...fast, transparent, clear, spacious, textural, nuanced and extended. It is one of the clearer input tubes I have, a trait of many Siemens tubes I have tried (other clear ones I have: all early 60s....ECC88, E88CC and PCC88 labelled CBS).

I really like this PCC88, though it may be demanding depending on your system since they are so clear and fast. But if the system/room needs more transparency, or with the right compliment of other warmish tubes, I think it is a really good tube.

You have to be thoughtful about sellers, looking at ratings, measurements, and to be sure about the same construction/vintage when buying on Ebay, but there are many reputable and reliable tube sellers. You can occasionally find these Siemens for around 75 for a pair (plus shipping) there.
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Reply #19 - 02/23/16 at 19:48:30
 
Thanks Will for the the link, and your observations. Should have #2 tube in a couple of days, and after some burn in, I'll update with my thoughts. I probably should re-post this info on the "Tube" thread since this query has nothing to do with Ediswan.
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Reply #20 - 02/23/16 at 20:35:38
 
Thanks for the responses.  I am kind of in a tube phase now that my latest speaker build is done.

Lon, I have been trying to buy some Amperex via eBay for some time now but keep losing the auctions.  I have been reluctant to pay $150 for a pair but it may come down to that.

Supposedly, the specific 6n23Ps I bought surpass the Amperex in several areas.  It's a Head-fi favorite, especially the 1975 version.  I got '74s because they were more reasonably priced and supposed to be close.

I'll dig up the link where one guy did the review, but I've also seen other positive comments about the silver shield, single wire getter 6n23ps.
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Reply #21 - 02/23/16 at 21:09:49
 
This is what I bought.  Seems they jacked up the price since I bought.  Same tubes, Same seller.  20 days and counting on the shipping.  Haven't hit the States yet as far as I can tell.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N23P-E88CC-6922-6DJ8-MatchedPAIR-REFLEKTOR-Single-Wire-...
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Reply #22 - 02/23/16 at 21:12:46
 
And here is the review I referenced.  Seemed thoughtful although a strong Russian tube background.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/761078/6922-tube-review-17-top-6922-6n23p-e88cc-cca-730...
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Reply #23 - 02/23/16 at 22:13:16
 
Palomino wrote on 02/23/16 at 20:35:38:
Thanks for the responses.  I am kind of in a tube phase now that my latest speaker build is done.

Lon, I have been trying to buy some Amperex via eBay for some time now but keep losing the auctions.  I have been reluctant to pay $150 for a pair but it may come down to that.

Supposedly, the specific 6n23Ps I bought surpass the Amperex in several areas.  It's a Head-fi favorite, especially the 1975 version.  I got '74s because they were more reasonably priced and supposed to be close.

I'll dig up the link where one guy did the review, but I've also seen other positive comments about the silver shield, single wire getter 6n23ps.

You know I just don't trust other reviews in other amps by others. If someone were using them in the Torii Mk III with the same speakers in a similar room. . . okay. But otherwise, big grains of salt, and I trust my own experience and those in the forum with similar equipment and tastes and not Joe or Heaphone Dude or Top  Hype Merchantman.

Really it's all about the tube complement I think. I have a pair of Arcturus OB3 that are magic in the Torii and a pair of old 5V4 bottle type that are magic in the Torii. I find that the TAD KT66 are magic in the Torii. I build my inputs around these and the Amperex 7308s I have are a head and shoulder above others, for me, period, including another pair of Amperex 7308 I use in another Torii!

So if anyone finds a particular type of tube that works for them and brings or supports the "magic" in a complement, I'm happy for them, but I don't necessarily assume they'll be the cat's meow for me. And I'm done paying big bucks for tubes, my favorites I didn't pay that much for (including the Amperex 7308s). At the right time the right tubes have appeared I guess. Luck of the draw? Or part of the magic? I don't know!
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Reply #24 - 02/23/16 at 22:21:27
 
I am just exploring getting to the right compliment.  I intend to google your magic Torii mix.  Thanks

Still, I look for tips from anybody to try to narrow down the field.  There is a good bit of crossover of tubes discussed here and those on his list.

I will let you know about the reflektor 6n23ps (assuming they get here).

I took the tip from the Stone-meister on the other ruskie tubes and it seems to have worked well.

And I will keep looking for the Amperex.  I just choke a little at $150+.  Timing does seem to be everything.
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Reply #25 - 02/23/16 at 22:29:43
 
Oh, and what brand are your 5V4s?
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Reply #26 - 02/23/16 at 22:46:07
 
1940s RCA 5V4Gs. I used to use an RCA 5V4GT very happily in my Select and remembered that a year ago or so and found an old matched pair to try in the Torii. Gives just the right amount of "forgiveness" to sources for me, and great recordings (and vinyl) shine, works great with the other tubes in the complement, for me.  

I have tried other brand of rectifier and regulation tubes but somehow I end up with RCAs.
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Reply #27 - 02/24/16 at 18:15:11
 
Top  Hype Merchantman  ;D Grin Grin Grin Grin  ....has provided me with great 6922's. Worth every penny!
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Reply #28 - 02/24/16 at 18:35:53
 
Good on you. Not for me.
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Reply #29 - 02/26/16 at 14:01:11
 
Below, is the Tube compliment I'm sticking with for the next 4500 hours.

4500 hours of estimated 6922 tube life  / 100 hours per month = 45 months / 12 months in a year = 3.75 years of Listening pleasure.

What do I do then? Ediswans die/gone  :'( ....Hoping Mullards work to my liking.... .

.....as for cost of a $200 pair of 6922' Tubes (Ediswans or Mullards) = worth it (+ the Telefunken).
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Reply #30 - 02/26/16 at 14:21:41
 
Did you try the Bells yet?
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Reply #31 - 02/26/16 at 16:41:30
 
Hi Will, no I have not. I'm just buying/backing up my current Tube compliment. Once, I'm comfortable with that being done....I will get the Bel's. ....moving them around as a pair...... .
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Reply #32 - 02/26/16 at 19:28:25
 
I have a few pair of Philips SQ which Upscale claims the Bel basically are... My SQs are all different sounding, but really good tubes...becoming harder to find reasonably though.
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Reply #33 - 02/29/16 at 01:19:58
 
Hi All! I don't post much but I'm past 2 years now with my Tori IV. I've rolled many input tubes (Ediswan CV2492, Telefunken E88CC, Amperex 7308 and Siemens Made Branded Telefunken 70J8s..and others)...and I have to say that I could live with all of them but the Telefunken 70J8s sound the best in my system/room (Zu Soul Superfly Speakers).  Sadly I read a year a half ago a post by Steve that suggest that any 70J8 in this amp would be great..and I didn't listen! Spent a lotta money on other tubes and recently purchased the 70J8s and am blown away.  So much so that I bought a second pair. Truly amazed by the upgraded sound stage...and all around incredible sound. I highly recommend at least trying these tubes especially considering the price compared to other like tubes.
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Reply #34 - 03/05/16 at 15:25:40
 
Hi Paul, cool, might have to try the Tele you're talking about.

We are using different Amps....but still close.

I recently took my CSP3 out of the chain and I'm running my ZMA direct from ZDSD. Loving it ~ the additional transparency. I might be selling my CSP3.

I also put my pair of Telefunken E88CC
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/6922-6dj8-7308-pcc88/telefunken-e88cc-6922/

in my ZMA Inputs (glad I bought a pair a lot cheaper from Upscale last year vs. this higher price). Having precise imaging and a detailed top end with these vs. the Mullard lush tone of my Ediswan's ~ in which I still love....I just switch when I want the Tele sound vs. my Mullard Edi' sound.







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Reply #35 - 03/07/16 at 13:59:58
 
I have my Cryoset 6H23N-EB's back in as phase-splitter's (I did have the Telefunken's in as splitter's for a bit) & NOS/Platinum/Ediswan CV2492/6922's in my inputs.

I do believe I like the EB's as inverter's and rotating between the Ediswan's and the NOS Platinum Telefunken E88CC's for Inputs of my ZMA.

Furthermore, I'm enjoying-running my ZMA direct from ZDSD, with these tube compliments!
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Reply #36 - 03/07/16 at 15:38:18
 
I must add, I won't be selling my CSP3 anytime soon. It is still very transparent and adds weight and dimension into/through my ZMA.

But, right now, enjoying running the ZMA direct from ZDSD....with very apparent virtue.

It's like Spring today!  I actually have a window open!
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Reply #37 - 03/07/16 at 15:48:44
 
Yes, as I've mentioned a number of times I actually prefer my DirectStream going directly into the Torii Mk III, a better sound without the compression and shaving of detail that can occur with the CSP2+. But right now I am running the DirectStream into the CSP2+ because I find I love the sound of the ZP3 directly into the CSP2+ and as I have three sources I can only run one directly into the Torii Mk III. . .right now I choose the ZP3 because my vinyl sound is just off the charts.
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Reply #38 - 03/10/16 at 13:46:59
 
Restored my CSP3 back in the chain. Using the Tube compliments below/exactly.

I have a pair of Mullard E188CC / 7308 NOS Platinum Cryogenic coming. It will be interesting to hear if I like them in my pre outputs or ZMA inputs..... . Got to have some Mullards!!! (Real ones/true NOS).






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Reply #39 - 03/10/16 at 15:05:06
 
I finally received the Silver Shield Single wire getter 6n23p '74s mentioned in that review I posted.  They easily bested the 6H23N-EB's cyro's and really bring out the best in my new OBs.  The 6H23N-EB's were definitely a step up, but these are a fairly good step up beyond them.

More air, more realism, more detail.

Even though the price got jacked up, I bought another pair for the future.  After I bought another pair I saw that they jacked them up another $10.

I'd like to get some Amperex now to compare, but I've dropped too much on tubes the last two months so I will have to hold off for now.
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Reply #40 - 03/10/16 at 15:21:27
 
Pal,
Do you have a link to the seller you can share?
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Reply #41 - 03/10/16 at 15:28:35
 
Just search eBay.  There are a couple of sellers.  Silver shield, single wire getter, Reflektor plant, '74 or '75.  Supposedly the gray shields are pretty good too, but not as good as the Silver Shields.

It is a bit of a gamble, I'll admit given that the people who have these tubes at a sub $200 price are in Ukraine or Russia, but I rolled the dice and it turned out OK.  I used a different seller for the second set, because they look like they are in better shape (assuming the pictures are real).

Don't expect to see these anytime fast.  I think my first set took 30 days from Ukraine.

The reviewer in that post also sells them, but he charges a significant premium but there is more peace of mind and you will get them a lot quicker.
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Reply #42 - 03/10/16 at 21:48:50
 
I've been playing around with 6N23P/6H23P types I have on hand (three matched pairs) in the CSP2+ and the Torii Mk III today. All three pairs exhibit family characteristics: a very open midrange and nice dynamic contrast. In comparison to the Amperex 7308s I generally use in both machines the treble is less controlled and the bass is both a bit looser and a bit lower in audibility. I have my favorite pair right now in the Torii and my Amperex pair of 7308s in the CSP2+ . . . good sound. . . I miss the previous set up a bit. . . I'll keep playing this and see if they settle down a bit more.
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Reply #43 - 03/10/16 at 22:04:32
 
Well that leaves me even more curious about the Amperex.

Right now, my order is (from lowest to highest or best sound):

1. Vokshod 6n1p cryo
2. 6n23p Vokshod, single wire getter, grey shield
3. 6H23N-EB's, Reflektor, grey shield cryo (60's I think, have to look)
4. 6n23p '74 Reflector, single wire getter, silver shield

I have a pair of Gold Lion 6922s and SEL 6djs as well, but those aren't even in the rotation.
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Reply #44 - 03/10/16 at 22:19:28
 
I've got a box full of tubes. . . . I'd say my favorite of the 6N/6H (H and N are really the same cyrillic letter as I see it) are a pair of Vokshod silver/single I got from ebay some time ago and the supercryo'd Reflektors from cryoset.com

I rolled out my beloved Arcturus bottle style 0B3s for a pair of Mullard straight shoulder 0A3s in the Torii and that is making things rough and ready. . . helping the super cryo'd 6N23Ps out. . . . Sort of wish I hadn't started rolling (as I'll have to stop soon and I could use more time) but oh well!
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Reply #45 - 03/10/16 at 22:22:42
 
I shudder to think about what I have spent here.  And I haven't even moved on to rectifiers yet.
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Reply #46 - 03/10/16 at 22:31:38
 
Just think of how valuable those will be when we end up in audio debtor prison. . .we can trade them for favors to make life more bearable. Wink
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Reply #47 - 03/11/16 at 13:59:04
 
I'm back to the tube complement I started to move away from. Yes, I'm very comfortable and familiar with the sound from this set of tubes. But they just also have the right characteristics for my system and room.

I have an untreated room, I will probably never again (or at least for a few decades) have a room dedicated to my listening and able to be "treated," so a tube complement that works for ME may well not work for someone in a room dedicated and treated for audio.

I'm going to need a new set of TAD KT66 soon. I tried the coin based Russian tubes. . . they're nice. . .but. . . I'll keep a set for back up but. . . I've become addicted to (and have set up the system around) the sound of KT66 output tubes. Otherwise until some of my tubes in use show age, I'm going to try not to spend more money on tubes!
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Reply #48 - 03/11/16 at 15:28:01
 
I'm done with the Russian 6922 stuff.

My Mullard's come tomorrow. FedEx always delivers by 1:30pm on Saturday's.  

Rotating my two pair of Ediswan's, one Pair of Telefunken's and one pair of Mullard's.....around through my CSP3 and ZMA is where I'm at for fun (nailing down the phase inverter slots~see ZMA Thread). My hardware is set! I consider the 6922's the software.

I will be buying 7 other different pairs of tubes (6922) from Kevin this year.  I hear you about the Rectifier position too Palomino.....I'll bring in an RCA 5U4G and the Philips 5R4GYS.
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Reply #49 - 03/11/16 at 15:38:34
 
I'll probably end up selling a few pairs come Nov/Dec this year. I will list in the Classifieds here on Decware first.....then AudioGoN.




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