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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #200 - 09/02/15 at 15:59:14
 
Just trial an error, Tinman. You will know when it is clipping. With those Speakers and the adjustable volume OUTPUT AND volume INPUT of the ZDSD (completely awesome features-I use)! You should be able to go pretty darn loud when you want....without clipping at all.....ever really.

The Harmonic richness of Steve's transformer output stage, is kicking the tush out of my high-end DAC right now as I write. You are going to love your System!
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Reply #201 - 09/03/15 at 14:00:54
 
Tinman, get your order in on the ZDSD. I've had mine back in/Vega out, the last 24 hours with OUTPUT volume down to -16db from 20, and INPUT volume down from flat 0.0 to -1.0db. I use the CSP3 too. However, you will be running direct and will love these adjustable tools to great musical sound!

When you add Steve's output stage and run it at 16/176 (best for me)...she is giant slayer of a DAC. The recording aspect, is a bonus of fun and sound quality.





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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #202 - 09/03/15 at 17:19:40
 
Stone, I see that you are planning on getting a SE84CKCS.  Given the ZDSD's output transformer stage (I think) and the $700 upcharge for the balanced inputs on the SE84CKCS, would you get the balanced inputs?  Of course, they may be needed for other input sources?

I'm toying with the idea of a SE84... but I don't know which, the standard or the delux model?
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Reply #203 - 09/04/15 at 13:40:10
 
Hi Archie, for me, I plan on not getting them (XLR Inputs on CKCS). Steve designed his RCA output stage to best both the stock RCA an XLR outputs, coming out of the ZDSD.

http://decware.com/newsite/ZDSD.html
"As seen in the picture above the rear of the Model ZDSD is outfitted with a pair of Silver RCA output jacks that work independently of the stock balanced and unbalanced outputs on the machine. These Silver Jacks are the output of a fully differential balanced circuit driving a fully floating pair of high gain, wide bandwidth transformers".

After extensive listening and modifying a pair of XLR adapters for my Vega, (per Auralic spec's~great service/timely from Auralec tech via email to me),....I prefer Steve's Output Stage~period.

I also prefer Steve's Output Stage over:
PS Audio DSD DAC
NAD M51 DAC
PS Audio PWT/PWD Combo
Anedio D1 DAC
Chord Chordette QuteHD DAC.

Furthermore, because of Steve's output stage from the ZDSD and my CSP3 and using the Input gain, Output Reference Level/ZDSD, Volume and Voltage adjustment from the CSP3.....I have everything that Balanced XLR has to offer.....into my ZMA.

Those that question this: Can bring over there best recordings and they will hear the mouse piddle on the cotton ball from the back of the Studio if so desired! Cabling matters too. Yes, the CSP3, is very transparent, used in high gain/voltage (8 out of 10 setting) output....to ZMA. The Alchemy Steve has created in my chain (ZDSD/PCM to CSP3 to ZMA) is stunning.

So why the: SE84CKCSelect/UFO & Caintuck Loudspeakers/Alpha Baffle w/Audyn Plus Caps?
Why not? It will be......a fun form of comparison to my Listening Room involvement/musicality.

Next up for my ZDSD:
PCM to DSD Recording needs to be done! I've only done a little PCM to PCM. The SD Sample Card/DSD, Steve sent with my ZDSD is stunning!
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Reply #204 - 09/04/15 at 18:50:04
 
Quote:
Next up for my ZDSD:
PCM to DSD Recording needs to be done!


From what I understand, and from my testing with the DA-3000, you will not be able to do this if I understand your comment.
If you select any of the PCM inputs (all inputs but SDIF-3 and analog), you cannot SRC to DSD. You CAN SRC PCM to any other rate PCM than what is input.
As soon as you select DSD as the recording format, the DA-3000 auto-switches the digital input to SDIF-3 or DSD-Raw.
If I interpreted this incorrectly I would surely like to know as I have read all I can find and received no feedback from Tascam when I asked the question.
Now you can definitely record the analog inputs to a DSD file (and PCM) at all rates.
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Reply #205 - 09/05/15 at 14:39:54
 
True, Sample Rate Conversion to any PCM up. My record collection to DSD or from Reel to Reel.
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Reply #206 - 09/05/15 at 18:39:36
 
Thanks Stone, you have confirmed my feeling about the balanced inputs on the SE84CKCS.  I like Steve's approach especially since it means I don't need more cabling and extra equipment!
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Reply #207 - 09/10/15 at 18:00:02
 
You know it Archie.

Well, Auralic gone and Steve's Output Stage wins!
With the ZDSD, the Input volume adjustment and Output Reference volume with Steve's Output Stage is indispensable!

I have the Kimber Select KS6063 (8 ft pair), coming with WBT-0681 Ag Spades!
Sorry, Anticable and Belden......Kables matter, even when running a single Mundorf Mcap Supreme Cap in each Speaker!

The best Alchemy is Kimber Silver IC to Kimber Copper Speaker for me.

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Reply #208 - 09/11/15 at 03:15:13
 
Just have to clean up a little bit of noise from the tranny's in the ZDSD, with a Shunyata Research's Ztron Alpha Digital AC. I will be good for a couple years.  ;D Cool
http://www.thecableco.com/Product/Ztron-Alpha-Digital-AC

......completion of mind blowing System.
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Reply #209 - 09/11/15 at 18:37:10
 
http://audioshark.org/shunyata-research-78/review-shunyata-zytron-alpha-digital-...

From this account and others; plus my experience finding the right Power Cords for my CSP3 and ZMA.....and as good as the ZDSD is running out of my P3. I might be in for a little treat with the Ztron Alpha into the the ZDSD, on and off the P3 regen.  

First, the addition of my 6063's next week then the Alpha in 2 or 3 weeks arrival.............. .
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Reply #210 - 09/12/15 at 00:07:31
 
stone_of_tone wrote on 09/11/15 at 18:37:10:
http://audioshark.org/shunyata-research-78/review-shunyata-zytron-alpha-digital-...

From this account and others; plus my experience finding the right Power Cords for my CSP3 and ZMA.....and as good as the ZDSD is running out of my P3. I might be in for a little treat with the Ztron Alpha into the the ZDSD, on and off the P3 regen.  

First, the addition of my 6063's next week then the Alpha in 2 or 3 weeks arrival.............. .


@ stone, did you see this video I posted in regards to the Shunyata Alpha HC?  If you're considering the Alpha Digital you should check this out as they are in the same model range.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM1CRHciEsE
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Reply #211 - 09/12/15 at 01:07:58
 
Cool, thanks Beowulf.  L/S.
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Reply #212 - 09/13/15 at 16:23:38
 
I must add, I've been down the Preamp and Power Amp road with Power Cords. My XLO Pro's are still the ones for me. However, I'm so pleased with Steve's ZDSD (I returned the Vega)....I want to run the Shunyata to her on and off my P3 Power Plant.....will hear how it goes... .

Since I loathe Solid State for 2 channel Listening (in any price range/thus-why I own Emotiva & Rotel Preamp)....but, of course own SS for HT & Sat viewing downstairs, etc... . I did pick up an Kimber Palladian PK10 for half price (6 years ago/Dave Weinhart Design-cool guy~next time I'm in LA...I'm stoping in his place). I use the Palladian into my XPA-1/Emotiva (3 years old) Rock Concert from a Box Amp! The Palladian completely transforms this Solid State Amp for the way~way~better. The Palladian on Tubes....not good.

I will be seasoning in my Kimber KS6063 Speaker Cables, starting this Wednesday night. I won't get the Shunyata Ztron Digital Alpha AC in the System for another 2 or 3 weeks.
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Reply #213 - 09/13/15 at 20:55:51
 
@ stone, you may want to consider filtering power cables after the PS3 as well.  

I read a review for the Blue Horizon Mains Noise Analyzer over at 6 moons and Marja & Henk found that the P10 they were analyzing was very noisy, noisier than most of the other gear the were testing including a Mac mini and notebook, which is ironic as most people buy extra LPSU to cut down on noise.  Anyways, they found the problem did not arise when using the older PS Audio PPP unit, just the P10 ... putting that together and the P3 that you're using has similar tech to the P10, it would  make sense that some additional filtering would be beneficial because it is a probability that the P3 may be introducing additional noise into your system to whatever is hooked up to it ... so additional power cords that can filter such as Shunyata and/or Wireworld may be quite useful.
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Reply #214 - 09/13/15 at 23:14:24
 
If that is the case. Adding this Shunyata digital AC cord, will be a very good thing coming out of my P3 to ZDSD.

Today, on my CSP3, I dialed my Telefunken Input Tube down from 10 to 9 and dialed my Output Tubes up from 8 to 9. ZDSD at Ref Level Output of -20 and Input at 0.0db. Talks about a lock on clarity/imaging/soundstage, at some extreme SPL's I am pushing today!  ZMA, at 90% of volume/used as full power amp. Volume output adjusted with CSP3 from 0 to 40%.

You just know when it is right/involving.....and of course no fatigue at these higher Volumes too!  

I love this ZDSD/CSP3/ZMA combination!
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Reply #215 - 09/14/15 at 02:52:07
 
I wouldn't be surprised if that cable had a positive effect on your entire system that is plugged into the P3.
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Reply #216 - 09/14/15 at 14:21:29
 
It should create some overspill, maybe.

I am so pleased with the P3 and it does not squash dynamics! Not surprised though....P3, P5 and P10 are not perfect and that is where the Shunyata comes in. I will also run it to my CSP3 and ZMA separately. Designed for digital or what not/it's a noise squashing Power Cord......it will be interesting to these components and from the wall to these components each..... .
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Reply #217 - 09/15/15 at 01:14:23
 
Stone, have you compared listening to tracks on SD cards and tracks on thumb drives?
Is it really easy to navigate through your music like Steve says? 64 gigs of 16/44 music is a lot of music to find stuff.
Steve also said he'd used really big USB thumb drives, like 256gb and even 512gb. Any experience?
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Reply #218 - 09/15/15 at 15:15:51
 
Someone else will have to chime in about that marcocolo. I've done little recording since March and only have scratched the surface. I have been enjoying the great DAC it is in 16/176 through Steve's RCA Output Stage.
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Reply #219 - 09/15/15 at 15:52:05
 
I was referring to listening to tracks that were put on SD cards or USB thumb drives and listened to through this unit. Wondering if the playback was different sounding based on the input of SD or USB.
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Reply #220 - 09/16/15 at 16:10:22
 
SD cards are great to create playlists and convenience. Subjectively, the sound is the same for me, either from my CD Transport or SD card. But, I also have a pretty tricked out transparently (K)abled through Speakers System.

I think first and foremost: Buy the ZDSD for Steve's Output Stage from this very, very competent DAC! I would still own and have owned the DAC's listed below. I own the ZDSD AND NOT the below DAC's-because Steve's machine is better~period.

From my previous POST:
"After extensive listening and modifying a pair of XLR adapters for my Vega, (per Auralic spec's~great service/timely from Auralec tech via email to me),....I prefer Steve's Output Stage~period.

I also prefer Steve's Output Stage over:
PS Audio DSD DAC
NAD M51 DAC
PS Audio PWT/PWD Combo
Anedio D1 DAC
Chord Chordette QuteHD DAC.

Furthermore, because of Steve's output stage from the ZDSD and my CSP3 and using the Input gain, Output Reference Level/ZDSD, Volume and Voltage adjustment from the CSP3.....I have everything that Balanced XLR has to offer.....into my ZMA".

PS-soon, through my Audio Club.....I will hear a Yggy DAC. I wish it luck, up against Steve's Output Tranny's! You can talk to me all day about change of architecture with Pro's and Copy/Yggy designer's....at the end though: HOW DOES IT SOUND!





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{also @ kept/-20 Ref Level & -.5db or -1.0 Input volume Level}
{ also @ -18 Ref Level & -1.0 Input volume Level}
{ also @ -16 Ref Level & -1.0 Input Volume Level}

WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030
Decware CSP3 w/Jupiter Caps (NOS/Platinum/Telefunken 6922/E88CC .....for Input Tube)
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10 of 10 for Input tube & 8 of 10 voltage for Output tubes
Volume adjustment used at 0 to 40%
**********************************************
WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030

Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
***NOS/Platinum/Ediswan's CV2492/6922 in my A12 an B12 positions***
ZMA used as straight Power Amp, at 90% of Volume

***************************************************
Kimber Select KS6063 Speaker Cable 8ft WBT-0681-Ag Spades
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Acoustic Zen Adagio - Black Pearl (Modified)

REL T5 SUB, Neutrik connection from ZMA
{30Hz @ 35% of volume~0 Phase}
Auralex Subdude II

Acoustic Zen Adagio's x-over's Modified/Full Range with Mundorf MCap Supremes-single Cap to each Tweeter/4.5k cross
(Gutted: 3kHz/18dB/Octave, Linkwitz/Riley Crossovers....with all crappy parts = gone)

XLO Pro Power Cords to CSP3 an ZMA
PS Audio P3 Power Plant / Pangea AC-9SE from wall to P3
(Transport, ZDSD an CSP3, Regenerated/120 ~ Multiwave off...ZMA on High Current Output)
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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #221 - 09/25/15 at 15:34:44
 
I have the Shunyata Ztron Alpha Digital power cord from my PS P3 Power Plant to my Decware ZDSD. I must say with only 3 hours on it....the already great voicing of the ZDSD is taken a step further in mid-bass and bass definition especially. Wow, if my initial impression continues....what a very worth while upgrade! .....the Midrange? ....Sweeter, while maintaining tone/timbre with attack. Highs are all there and extended at a better rate.

I was leery of my P3 when I got it a year ago because I did not like the P300 (I think it was called) from PS Audio back in 98 or 99. It squashed dynamics. The P3 is awesome in NOT squashing anything, but of course lowering the noise floor and noticeable and musical. Same here out of the box and running for the Alpha Digital-I was leery/but it is just making improvements and staying out of the way of the Music.  

I'm still leery about changing my XLO's that run to my CSP3 and one RUNS to my ZMA. Others I've tried did get in the way.... . The XLO's are superb...but now, I think I want to Cable Bank/from CableCo, some Shunyata Alpha Series in......for these two guys.

But, my budget is shot....so I'm going to appreciate and be thankful for what I've sold this year and have been able to purchase and just enjoy.

I've only had my Kimber KS6063 Speaker Cables in for 10 days too!  It will be nice to have all well burned in for my Torii Jr. arrival in November!  Maybe, some more Shunyata late 2016.





Listening Room:
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Sony as Transport (DVP-NS57P)/Sandwich weighted for Isolation
Illuminati D-60 Digital Coax IC

Shunyata Ztron Alpha Digital power cord
Decware ZDSD DAC / Recorder (@ -20 Ref Level, 0.0 Input volume and @ 16/176.4)
{also @ kept/-20 Ref Level & -.5db or -1.0 Input volume Level}

WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030
Decware CSP3 w/Jupiter Caps (NOS/Platinum/Telefunken 6922/E88CC .....for Input Tube)
**********************************************
10 of 10 for Input tube & 8 of 10 voltage for Output tubes
Volume adjustment used at 0 to 50%
**********************************************
WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030

Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
***NOS/Platinum/Ediswan's CV2492/6922 in my A12 an B12 positions***
ZMA adjusted at 50% to 90% of Volume

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Reply #222 - 09/26/15 at 20:03:53
 
It is to nice out to be inside right now. However, the two new additions to my System, the Shunyata Ztron Alpha digital power cord to ZDSD, 2 days ago, and my KS6063 Speaker Cables, 11 days ago.......are blowing my mind right now, thru my Decware and modified Adagio's! SLAM and higher SPL's....just locked in your seat. You could go there before....but not like this!

..........and without my REL Sub!   I have that downstairs for a MADMAX 3D Experience tonight.....(also run an HSU MBM down there for the Visual medium).

......just finished The Rippingtons ~ Fountain of Youth. Russ plays 14 different Vintage Guitar's with some nice  sub bass additions. Once again, without my REL....so good, so good.
Right now I have NYC Records, Produced by Mike Mainieri, Come Together ~ Guitar Tribute to the Beatles.....just stunning. I will eventually get outside today.....maybe.
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Reply #223 - 09/29/15 at 19:31:33
 
Did some ABA'in of my KS6063's and 3033's before they sell on Audiogon. The 6063's are not going anywhere! Same with the Shunyata power cord to ZDSD....not going anywhere!

Well, until I get my Jr. in............ .
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Reply #224 - 10/01/15 at 01:43:19
 
Ok so I have had my zdsd for awhile now and finally took a look at the recording option and I have to say its really neat.  and being able to take my songs from the computer and put it on an sd card and play it is just really nice and simple...man I love simple.  Oh yeah and it sounds really nice..detail warmth imaging and just get lost in the music...who could ask for more Smiley   I am using Csp3 --Torii MKiv--Omega outlaw speakers
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Reply #225 - 10/07/15 at 22:05:05
 
Did some more ABA'in with the Shunyata Alpha Digital.....man, wowy powwy..........and no bull' man.............she be worth every penny!

Sucks you in and grabs you my the Kahuna's!....clearly, cleanly and musically......SERENDIPITOUS that it coincided with my KS 6063 Speaker Cable.....delivering the goods! ...........back to my Tunes!
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Reply #226 - 10/14/15 at 14:54:26
 
Another week on the Shunyata Alpha, made for digital high frequency hash squashing....without mucking up the MUSIC.

Verdict: indispensable.

So yes, is $922 buckaroo's, worth spending and adding to this great machine from the Zen Master. A resounding YES!

Everything down stream is benefiting.....right thru to my 6063's being maximized to my Modified Adagio's.

I've been playing around with Power Cords since 1995. This Ztron Alpha finally got it right for me into digital then to my XLO's for PRE and Amp.
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Reply #227 - 10/15/15 at 20:48:33
 
With the addition of my new additions, I'm able to Play sample at 192kHz (now, to my satisfaction)! NOW, you want to talk about a Stage.....!

My hardware quest(s) are over!  Highly recommended Player...this ZDSD I tell ya!  Voiced for Redbook.....the way it should be!
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Reply #228 - 10/15/15 at 21:20:42
 
Quote:
My hardware quest(s) are over!  


Stone! You expect us to believe this statement? LOL.
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Reply #229 - 10/16/15 at 16:40:56
 
Okay, okay.....almost done. LOL   Grin
Plus, I so look forward to reading Steve's posts about his new Preamplifier!

I ordered the Cambridge CXC.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779CXCCDB/Cambridge-Audio-CXC-Black.html

It has been out for 10 months now (give or take). I did own a good Transport/Servo that died. This CXC unit: Audio S3 Custom CD Servo™ drive mechanism provides maximum data retrieval with state-of-the-art error correction and minimal jitter.... . Spinning at Audio CD speed and all about the SERVO.

Don't laugh at what I have been using.....it kicked to the curb quite a few. However, time to bring in a dedicated Tport/Servo again that my DECWARE deserves.....and is everything a 2 to 5k Transport is of yester-year and today. Thank you my British brethren!
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Reply #230 - 10/21/15 at 17:28:00
 
Holy Snikey's!  UPS came early with my Cambridge CXC!
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Reply #231 - 10/21/15 at 20:38:16
 
She sounds promising. I'll report back about her in a couple weeks.
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Reply #232 - 12/04/15 at 16:03:20
 
I have had the ZDSD for a couple of months now and have to agree with all the compliments stone_of_tone and others have given it.  The ZDSD has completely changed how I view digital music.  I never knew digital recordings could sound this good.     

If you have the money, I would highly recommend buying the ZDSD.  
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Reply #233 - 12/09/15 at 15:23:21
 
No doubt Chris. I would OWN the higher price spread if it was musically superior. But, guess what; it isn't and I don't?! I have had quite a few DACS through here the last 2.5 years (most recently the Yggdrasil).  The Decware ZDSD still wins!  

Does Steve know how to Voice those Output Trannies of his or what?!!!

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Reply #234 - 12/09/15 at 16:47:17
 
Has anyone directly compared the ZDSD with the ZCD-240?  I think Steve said they were very similar but the ZDSD added more "weight" to the music.  I'm not 100% sure I know what that means or if a CSP3 would make up for that difference.

I'm leaning toward the ZCD since I need to play discs but in the long run the sound is the most important thing even if I had to add a trasport to the ZDSD.
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Reply #235 - 12/17/15 at 01:31:11
 
@stone_of_tone:

How well does the Cambridge CXC transport pair with the Decware ZDSD?  

I currently use an old McIntosh MCD7007 CD player (sold from 1988 to 1994).  While the MCD7007 still plays well, I often wonder if it would be worthwhile to upgrade to a newer CD player (or transport).  I have read great reviews of the Cambridge CXC but do not know anyone who owns one.  The MCD7007 has issues when playing CD-R's and CD-RW's.  

Would you recommend the CXC?

Thanks,

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Reply #236 - 12/22/15 at 15:31:52
 
Welcome to the Forum Christian.

Ultimately, I prefer/preferred my over achieving Sony as a Transport to get the bits to my ZDSD. Some would say....with the rest of my line-up downstream in my System: "How can you use that, as a Transport".....this particular unit beats the half dozen I've had in ($$)....and I own two more prestine in their boxes, for the future.

When people listen to my Rig....they don't doubt this over achiever and scratch their heads.....because most of this ilk, stink.... . Not this one.
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Reply #237 - 12/31/15 at 19:23:37
 
A question for all ZDSD users: Does anyone use its input monitoring (with ADDA off) to adjust volume feeding direct to amp? I asked Steve about this and he said it's doable but potentially risks damage to system.

I would be pleased if I could do this, but I don't want to risk any damage. Perhaps there is a way to offset the danger Steve mentioned?
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Reply #238 - 04/06/16 at 19:56:36
 
I find that when running my DSD into my integrated amp (tube pre-amp + solid state amp sections) the VOLUME is too loud even when reference level is set to -9db and volume dial set to 9-9:30, and I also hear some clipping. Question: Would an in-line attenuator, say 12db, HELP?
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Reply #239 - 07/11/16 at 21:42:35
 
I put my order in for the ZDSD last. So now it's the waiting game.  8-)
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Reply #240 - 08/16/16 at 18:28:12
 
Order status for my ZDSD is "On the Bench", should have it soon  8-)
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Reply #241 - 09/11/16 at 13:39:36
 
Just received my ZDSD.  About 5 hours with it playing red book CD.  

To put my comments into some context, a little about my background in this hobby.  Over 40 years ago it started when I heard and more importantly experienced what a Linn LP-12, Audio Research, and Magnepan Tympani system could do... convey the emotion that the musicians were putting into the music.

Over the years I have heard systems that I could not afford, not just in passing or at shows, $24,000.00 DACS, $60,000.00 speakers and so on.  I've also owned good systems that I could afford.  

Regardless of price, very few systems could produce the emotion in music.  The emotion that causes goose bumps or just causes one to become so involved that one starts to move rather emphatically in response to what one is hearing.  What I refer to as the "experience".

Well... the ZDSD produces the emotion in spades.  It does what very few systems that I have heard at any price were able to.  

Stone said that his hardware quests were over.  Quite a statement.  When it comes to a DAC, so are mine!
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Reply #242 - 09/11/16 at 13:57:48
 
Congrats! I am glad you are so happy with the ZDSD and so soon after plugging in! I have reached the end of my hardware search as well as far as DACs, with a different DAC, but we're on the same "enjoying the hell out of it" plateau!
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Reply #243 - 09/11/16 at 22:06:37
 
Thanks Lon.  Glad that you've been able to get to the same end result with your system.  To me it's not important how you got there, just that you did.

I was more than a little surprised as well that the ZDSD was able to achieve what it did in the short time that I've been listening to it.  It still has to burn in, still has a way to go and that is evident in certain areas.  But the fundamentals are so there... and I feel that it will only get better.  To what degree, I'll have to wait and see and comment down the road.

I been following your posts and the comments of others for some time.  I've also had many discussions with Steve D.  All input has been interesting and beneficial.

Recently I bought a CSP-3 from a member - Kevin B.  

It's been a great experience all round.

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Reply #244 - 09/13/16 at 16:14:28
 
Glad to read JOMAN. The ZDSD will continue to season in. I added the Shunyata Ztron Alpha Digital Power Cord. It takes the ZDSD to another level. You can try from thecableco.....on loan.
If this cable was BS....it would have been returned to Joe.....my guy at the cable co....ASAP.
https://www.thecableco.com/Product/Ztron-Alpha-Digital-AC
Click into what you will actually pay...... . But, do have in on loan first with no obligation.

I read this review on AudioShark after I bought it. I included for 2nd opinion purposes.
http://www.audioshark.org/shunyata-research-78/review-shunyata-zytron-alpha-digi...


Exactly well put too........I've been through the Audio Research's, Maggies and the like. I was an member of the Minnesota Audio Society for a few years.....which afforded me listening sessions AT Audio Research ....and many listening sessions at the Pavek Museum .....where we held our Audio meetings...with a lot of great gear brought in for each session.

............Decware wins.



Enjoy the emotion in the "Experience". ........that you so aptly expressed.









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Reply #245 - 09/14/16 at 04:26:45
 
Thanks for the tip Stone.  I'll look into the cable but may have to wait as I've stretched my budget for now.  You see, as part of our downsizing my wife felt that I should get headphones (Love that woman!).

So I got HD800's which meant I had to get a good headphone amp (actually it was the other way around, I was just looking for an opportunity).  About that time I came across a CSP3 which was pretty much loaded.  It went back to Decware for warrantee transfer, one 4 pin xlr and dual stereo outputs.

This meant that I just had to have a suitable DAC, not that the Lavry DA11 was bad but under the circumstances I felt that a change was... umm... justified, and that of course meant a new ZDSD.

Boy was I right.  

So a couple of days ago I asked my wife's opinion on the set up.  Over the years she has been a very good... ah... critic, yes that's it, critic who's opinion I value.

As she was listening to the first song she went quiet (that's a first), and as it ended all she said was "this is the best you've had".  There you go, from an expert critic who's not to be challenged.  

In all seriousness, I do value her opinion and her comment was spontaneous.

Who said this hobby isn't fun.

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Reply #246 - 09/14/16 at 12:34:21
 
So good to read that you have these great Decware products bringing you joy AND your wife's approval! Congrats and keep on enjoying and keeping us posted!
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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #247 - 09/14/16 at 15:16:25
 
Yes. I know about down sizing. I sold 9k of sitting around Audio Gear.....just last year. I sold my CSP3 (I used just about every day for 27 months with my Zen Mystery Amp)......back in July this year and some Rectifier tubes.

I have settled into my upstairs Listening Room Rig and downstairs HT Rig. The ZMA has so seasoned in......I can no longer use a Preamp with it. I sold an ARC Pre as well........not needed. The ZMA solo now, with my ZDSD........is near perfection.

I'm NOT ready for headphones. I did bring in a nice pair from Sweetwater and it was very good out of the CSP3. I will buy another CSP3, if I ever get into the Headphone scene.

Right now though, I enjoy my music out loud at 74db to 88db SPL every day. .....and of course the occasional 90db a little +SPL ....cause' the ZMA can go there.

Enjoy.
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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #248 - 12/09/16 at 01:31:36
 
It's been about a month since I got my ZDSD and posted my initial comments, which for me, were unusually positive.  One of the reasons I bought the ZDSD was Steves claim that at "-20bBFS it rivals analogue tape" and that it will "sway even the analogue freaks among us".  Being just that I took it as a bit of challenge.

Now a month later... As the ZDSD has been burning in I started adjusting the output levels on it and my CSP3.  The ZDSD is now set at -18dBFS, and I gladly acknowledge that Steve is definitely correct in the comments he made.

Now, I'm sure that you are aware that I don't have a mastering tape, so why do I feel that I can concur?  When digital started I had a fully loaded LP12 and compared my first CD Player to it.  The first CDPlayer went on a journey within 10 minutes (the household exec. said something about me being psychotic at the moment).

In time the exec. suggested that I should decide between digital and my LP12, (something about helping with my psychosis)  After selling it, for a long time I would silently let out a sigh as I was listening to digital, even when it got to be more than tolerable.  In fact for a time I didn't listen to music.

I'm now enjoying music almost every day and I just realized that in the last month I did not think about the LP12 and I did not sigh, not once.  I also have Steves Demo that he supplied with the ZDSD. Those are the reasons that I concur with the statements Steve made.

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Re: Decware Direct Stream Digital DAC / Recorder
Reply #249 - 12/13/16 at 15:54:25
 
JOMAN, very well put and I still have a Turntable downstairs to compare too; not the best but, very good.

I use -20 and -18. Plus, remember a significant part of the mod to this player is......Steve's output transformer's that are wonderful and ANALOG.

The ZDSD kicked to the curb:  Auralic Vega, PS Audio PWT & PWD, PS Audio Direct Stream DAC, Chord Qute, NAD M51 (twice) & Schiit Yggdrasil.

I owned or had in all of the above units. I don't own any of them.....because the ZDSD is that good.


PS~ a significant upgrade/further for the ZDSD, is a Shunyata Research Zitron Alpha Digital Power Cord. I try and buy from the cableco, with a 11.5% discount.

The cableco., is how I was able to get a new pair/demo of Kimber Select KS6063 at 65% off. ....whole other level of getting out of the way of the music...when the gear upstream can deliver as Decware can..... .

However, once again, the Shunyata cord mentioned is transformative and you can try with no obligation on loan. Ask if they are sending a well seasoned auditioned one....as they should (if you decide to do so).
















Listening Room:


Room Treatments from Michael Green & Home Brew

Sony as Transport (DVP-NS57P)

Illuminati D-60 Digital Coax IC

Shunyata Research Zitron Alpha Digital Power Cord to ZDSD
{Extremely Significant}

Decware ZDSD DAC / Recorder ++
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W/Steve's Output Transformer's/kicking to the curb quite a few superb DAC'S!
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(@ -20 Ref Level, 0.0 Input volume and @ 16/192)


WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030


Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
~BIASED at *60* mA~
(NOS/Platinum/Mullard E188CC/7308's in my A12 an B12 Input positions Cryogenic~NOS/Platinum/Telefunken E88CC for Inverter Tubes~NOS RCA 0A3's & matched Quad/Tung-Sol KT66's)
ZMA adjusted at 20% to 30-40% max ~ from 0 Gain


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Kimber Select KS6063 Speaker Cable 8ft WBT-0681-Ag Spades
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Acoustic Zen Adagio - Black Pearl (Modified)
.....from 8ohm Taps.






Acoustic Zen Adagio's x-over's Modified/Full Range with Mundorf MCap Supremes-single Cap to each Tweeter/4.5k cross
(Gutted: 3kHz/18dB/Octave, Linkwitz/Riley Crossovers....with all crappy parts = gone)


XLO Pro Power Cord to ZMA
PS Audio P3 Power Plant / Pangea AC-9SE from wall to P3
(Transport and ZDSD, Regenerated/*120*~ Multiwave off...ZMA on High Current Output)

++ ZDSD DAC, kicked to the Curb: Auralic Vega, PS Audio PWT & PWD, PS Audio Direct Stream DAC, Chord Qute, NAD M51 (twice) & Schiit Yggdrasil.


~NOS Platinum Tubes from Upscale Audio/Kevin:

(Great Britain) Mullard 7308/E188CC ~  2 pair (both pair Cryogenic)
(Germany) Telefunken E88CC ~ 1 pair
(US/Great Britain) Ediswan CV2492/6922 ~ 2 pair (one pair Cryogenic)
(Hungary) Tungsram 6922/E88CC ~ 1 pair
(Hungary) Tungsram PCC88/7DJ8 ~ 1 pair.

From Cryoset:
(Russia) 6N23N/P-EB ~ 2 pair

(Russia) 6N23P's ~ 2 pair/came with ZMA.  

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Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60
Audio Alchemy DTI-Pro
Audio Magic Mystic Reference I2S
Audio Alchemy DDE 3.0
Kimber Select 1030
Zen Select #76
Kimber Select 3033
Polk Audio LS-90
Tri-config/TipToes & Vibropods underneath Speakers
360 degree Rm Treats
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