Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
Decware Audio Forums
12/17/17 at 04:21:01 





 



Pages: 1 2 3 4
Send Topic Print
DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th (Read 24793 times)
patshrews
Verified Member
**




Posts: 28
DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
07/24/14 at 23:37:40
 
Hi Everyone,

I plan on attending this year's fest. I will be coming from OC, ca., and will be flying in. I believe the fastest most direct route will be to O'Hare, then drive a rental car to East Peoria. I was thinking of traveling Thursday, and leaving on Sunday. I have looked into staying at the Super 8 Washington on Washington Rd. I just would like something close, clean, and reasonably priced. Please advise if this sounds good, or if I should consider something else.

Thanks,

Pat
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 08/26/14 at 02:41:06 by Steve Deckert »  

Torii Mk. IV
Schiit Gungnir
Zu Omen Bookshelfs
with HO drivers
Decware Reference Interconnects
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: Decfest 2014
Reply #1 - 07/25/14 at 01:40:11
 

Peoria does have it's own airport, but I bet it's expensive to fly in there.

Not sure about hotels, as I only stay at the Marriott downtown. I'd see about getting us better rates, but it's under new management so I no longer have the pull I might have previously.

Still, if someone reminds of the dates Decfest falls on this year, I can ask and see if I can get any discounts. There is both a Marriott and Courtyard downtown Peoria, which is about 17 minutes from Steve's house.
Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
patshrews
Verified Member
**




Posts: 28
Re: Decfest 2014
Reply #2 - 07/25/14 at 03:43:40
 
The Fest is Friday Oct. 3rd through Sunday the 5th. I'll be staying Thursday-Saturday nights
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 07/25/14 at 07:35:09 by patshrews »  

Torii Mk. IV
Schiit Gungnir
Zu Omen Bookshelfs
with HO drivers
Decware Reference Interconnects
  IP Logged
Auguie
Senior Member
***




Posts: 70
Re: Decfest 2014
Reply #3 - 07/27/14 at 18:18:48
 
I've stayed at the Hampton Inn near the casino a couple of times for DeckFest, and been quite pleased. The staff is very nice, the rooms are clean, and the location is about 5 minutes from Steve's place. I plan to stay there again this year as well. Hope to see you there!!!

Auguie

Back to top
 
 

Decware SE84CS M Monoblocks & HDT Speakers; First Sound Presence Deluxe MK I Pre Amp; Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1/Oppo 971H (as transport for now); VPI Scout/Dynavector 10X5 Cart; Phonomena II Phono Pre; Magnum Dynalab FT101A Etude Tuner; XLO/Wireworld/Signal Cables.
  IP Logged
patshrews
Verified Member
**




Posts: 28
Re: Decfest 2014
Reply #4 - 07/27/14 at 21:59:51
 
Thanks Augie!
Back to top
 
 

Torii Mk. IV
Schiit Gungnir
Zu Omen Bookshelfs
with HO drivers
Decware Reference Interconnects
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #5 - 08/26/14 at 02:47:49
 
Here's a link to the info and live broadcast page:

http://www.decware.com/newsite/zenfestcam.html

And here's a link to this years thread on DECFEST 2014

http://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1406241460

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #6 - 08/26/14 at 05:04:35
 


Some have asked me what's on this years docket.... you know, what's the new stuff?  

To answer that question, as always there will be some little surprises, but unlike last year when we had a new amplifier and speaker, this year it's not meant to be. That means, if it isn't broke, don't fix it! We're still floating pretty high on all the new stuff from last year.  Remember, it's taken 17 years to create and evolve this product line, and now it's time to enjoy it. 

Actually I am working on a new preamp and a new single ended triode amplifier, but neither will be done by the fest... You can look forward to those in 2015 if I like the way they turn out. Meanwhile, I've decided this year to take advantage of a unique opportunity.

As fun as this annual fest is, during the rest of the year when I listen in the evenings, I feel frustrated that no one ever gets to here this! The reason is because during the fest, nothing is precisely setup and tweaked. Nothing has been hooked up long enough to settle in and many of the recordings are average.

Well for the first time since starting the company, I have left a system set up for an entire year (as pictured) and have listened to it almost every night. After all these years, I desperately needed to do that. The Zen Mystery Amp and last years new speakers (Monoliths) have been set up since, well, last year!

It's been tweaked, and sends me out there every time.  This year I'm going to share that with anyone willing to be here after dark!  Friday night or Saturday night and even Sunday night I will flip the room and play master tapes and broadcast reels on my machines as soon as the sun sets for several hours.  

So if anyone has ever wondered what Steve hears in his own listening room during the year... this will be it.  If you're thinking you can't stay that late, consider a hotel and live a little.  If you've been here during the day and heard it... you haven't heard it.

So we look forward to seeing everyone and meeting new faces!

Steve


Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #7 - 08/26/14 at 05:12:15
 

I'm looking forward to it, Steve! It will also be nice to not have to wrestle people for 15 minutes of listening time, only to have someone else come in and change it on you.  :)  I think this is a great idea. Get it all tweaked out and we'll be there!
Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Auguie
Senior Member
***




Posts: 70
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #8 - 08/26/14 at 22:43:45
 
OK...I was hemming and hawing on weather I was gonna make the trip.  Now I have to consider if I'm coming up on Sat OR Fri.  

Either way...I'LL BE THERE!!!

Dan
Back to top
 
 

Decware SE84CS M Monoblocks & HDT Speakers; First Sound Presence Deluxe MK I Pre Amp; Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1/Oppo 971H (as transport for now); VPI Scout/Dynavector 10X5 Cart; Phonomena II Phono Pre; Magnum Dynalab FT101A Etude Tuner; XLO/Wireworld/Signal Cables.
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #9 - 08/31/14 at 03:13:19
 
Dan, that's great news!
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #10 - 08/31/14 at 03:21:21
 
Quote:
I'm looking forward to it, Steve! It will also be nice to not have to wrestle people for 15 minutes of listening time, only to have someone else come in and change it on you.  :)  I think this is a great idea. Get it all tweaked out and we'll be there!


Nothing like putting myself under pressure.

Smiley

-Steve
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 08/31/14 at 03:22:16 by Steve Deckert »  
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #11 - 09/03/14 at 18:53:45
 
I just e-mailed this year's annual Decfest invite to everyone on our customer appreciation list.  If anyone here didn't get it, let me know and we'll get you on the list, and I'll post it here.

Thanks,

Steve
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #12 - 09/03/14 at 20:37:22
 

I got the E-mail! - it's odd that I get these messages, but never any of your responses to my E-mails. We need to figure that out.

Brianne and I are seeing if we can get that Friday off. She really wants to check out the Peoria zoo, then pop over to your place in the evening. I warned her it would probably be some late night listening.

Saturday is still up in the air. I'm also trying to convince some friends to come down with me, as they've only heard my system.

I hope to meet more of the Decware family this year!

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
jpv
Seasoned Member
****


Cause inside
everyone is a heavy
metal kid

Posts: 148
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #13 - 09/03/14 at 21:51:27
 
i will be there Friday, Satuday, and Sunday.
I will try to bring some LP's. Steve maybe you can record them to you RTR
Back to top
 
 

VPI Scoutmaster, Grado Sonata 2, Counterpoint pre amp and amp (modded by Altavista Audio), Proac sp. and home made subs. Lots of room treatment. Anti-cable sp cables and IC, Decware IC, ZKit 1.
  IP Logged
Palomino
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 1501
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #14 - 09/09/14 at 17:55:10
 
I like the name badges from last year's fest.  It helps to connect your internet name to a face and start conversations.

One other idea would be to have a blank sticker that you could list equipment or topics you are well versed in.  Mine would say Rachael, Mac Mini, room treatment and Chord QuetHD Dac.  Maybe PS Audio power products.

I'd love to talk to people with the same or different interests.  For example, I am interested in the Zen amp now that I've heard one in my setup.  If I spot someone with Zen amp on their sticker, I could approach them and talk about tubes for the Zen or comparing various Zen releases.

Just an idea.
Back to top
 
 

i7 Mac Mini with LPSU/SSD running Audirvana 2, Uptone Audio Regen on LPSU, Chord QuteHD with LPSU, DIY Belden ICs, Torii MKIII, SE34I.32, PS Audio P5 Power Supply, PS Audio Power Cords, Vintage Western Electric 16g Speaker wires, DIY Speakers
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #15 - 09/09/14 at 20:46:52
 

I think I still have my name badge from last year in the glove box of the little Scion. I'm like...what's this...it says Decware on it!

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Donnie
Seasoned Member
****


Why does it hurt
when I pee?

Posts: 1114
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #16 - 09/09/14 at 22:49:59
 
My Badge hangs alongside of my badge from work.
Back to top
 
 

Owner of the infamous RED TORII
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #17 - 09/15/14 at 23:02:07
 
Just a teaser about some possible new speakers this year...  

We have found a suitable full range driver for the DNA horn and are looking forward to everyone's feedback.  I can tell you that it really makes a Zen Amp (SE84CKC) sing!

Also, Bob has been working on a new speaker to replace the MG944's that were discontinued last year.  As some of you know, the MG944 was an MTM transmission line speaker.  This year we're going to hear an MTM speaker (same driver compliment) done in a DNA style horn enclosure.  I hear it's wicked.  We will again be looking forward to hearing everyones comments about this design.

Smiley

Steve
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Palomino
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 1501
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #18 - 09/15/14 at 23:30:43
 
Is there a signup page like last year?
Back to top
 
 

i7 Mac Mini with LPSU/SSD running Audirvana 2, Uptone Audio Regen on LPSU, Chord QuteHD with LPSU, DIY Belden ICs, Torii MKIII, SE34I.32, PS Audio P5 Power Supply, PS Audio Power Cords, Vintage Western Electric 16g Speaker wires, DIY Speakers
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #19 - 09/16/14 at 01:08:03
 

Quote:
Is there a signup page like last year?


LOL - I love it. From...well, I'm not sure if I'm going....to, WHERE DO I SIGN UP!

This sounds pretty exciting! I'm really looking forward to going now!

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #20 - 09/16/14 at 02:10:24
 
We're keeping an eye on this thread rather than having a sign up page this year.  

Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #21 - 09/16/14 at 02:12:31
 
This year we're going to have a coupon code on the badge you get when you sign in.  It will be good for 10% off your next purchase, and be valid for one year.

Steve Smiley
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Swordman
Verified Member
**




Posts: 9
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #22 - 09/20/14 at 03:37:38
 
I know I am late to the party but NOT too late!  I am now considering coming to the Fest!  I would be coming from San Diego, fly in and stay at a local hotel.

I have the Monoliths, a Select, the Z-Pre, the Sony-Dec CD player with all plugged in to a Furman power source.  Not super fancy but it sounds pretty good!  I would like to hear a state-of-the-art system (during the evenings).   Smiley
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #23 - 09/20/14 at 06:44:02
 

Only a couple weeks away! I'm looking forward to meeting more of the extended Decware "family". I'm looking forward to the late night tape sessions and hearing the speakers Steve has setup for us.
Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #24 - 09/20/14 at 22:29:20
 
The Acoustats failed a somewhat anal pre-fest test and as a result I will not be demoing them at the fest.

Thank God Decware gear isn't this unreliable.   Smiley

Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
mark58
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 4624
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #25 - 09/21/14 at 13:15:11
 
"anal pre-fest test"...  Sounds rather obscene, Steve.  Just what were you doing?...hehe
Back to top
 
 

"The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with the concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, deceptions, and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dark as Hell. Let no such man be trusted." William Shakespeare
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #26 - 09/22/14 at 03:57:39
 
Yes, hehe... it sounds pretty bad.  But that's the directive that best describes it.  The success of any fest is proportional to lack of things that go wrong.  So in the pre dawn hours of testing... once you get it working right... what things could be done to perhaps easily tip the scale in the wrong direction.  It's a series of pass/fail scenarios that I've accumulated since our first fest and use to determine if I'm going to set something up a particular way or not.  

For example, right now I'm seriously considering glueing at least one pair of speakers to floor, the Zen Open Baffles.  If you get here and none of the speakers move, you'll know what happened!

Steve Smiley

Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #27 - 09/22/14 at 04:15:03
 
Quote:
I'm seriously considering glueing at least one pair of speakers to floor, the Zen Open Baffles.  If you get here and none of the speakers move, you'll know what happened!


LOL

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #28 - 09/22/14 at 05:06:13
 
OK, I have to admit last nights bummer with the Acoustats turns out to be a blessing in disguise after a so far 12 hour wrestling match with my room. You see after a year of use the room needs more than cleaned, it and everything in it, needs ~ well restored. That means made like brand new. It's a karma thing. Like the zen rake in the sand thing to achieve balance in your universe.

I'm excited about flipping the room this year.  Doing so will make it a lot more representative of a real world setup similar to what most people would have at home.

Thanks to some tripped out music "India meets West" from one of my favorite customers, and the success of tonights efforts in the listening room, I have changed the usual pre fest stress into pre fest excitement.

I accomplished this after failing with the Acoustats last night and today thinking about what else equally exotic could take its place!

Tonight I am happy to say that the "digital" side of the room after a complete enema is now competitive with the Acoustats on the analog side of the room. This came to pass when I hooked up my Single Ended Triode OTL amplifier to the FRX drivers in the Zen Open Baffle speakers.  It was a holy crap ~ moment!



Now to put how good this sounds into perspective, I have listened almost exclusively to tape for the past year. In fact for the past 10 hours since I started this morning, I've been floating along on analog radio station tapes all day and simply loving it. Once I got the digital end of the room done and it was time for a test... I have to admit I was kind of dreading it. Especially when you consider the gear I used for the test.

Usually with CD you want things a bit slower, and I went the extreme opposite. I went with the FRX drivers in the Zen Open Baffles driven by my OTL SET amplifier. The two fastest things I own next to the Acoustats. 

Frankly I expected to be mortified when presented with the stark contrast between top drawer analog  and 44 bit digital. But to be fair, this is a pretty exotic setup.  Differential dual mono burr brown DACS feeding Jensen wide bandwidth transformers that in turn are driving the OTL amplifier directly, which is then driving the FRX drivers that incorporate a transformer coupled voice coil technology with a tuning load to absorb ringing and magnet feedback. If you could hear HD 1080p video resolution, this is what it would sound like.

To my complete surprise, the sound of this combination is actually on par with the Acoustats on many levels and better than the acoustics on some levels and fall short only in one category  (scale). The difference is minor enough to be forgotten. The ZOB, picky as it can be, it far more room friendly than the Acoustats. And the Amp is perhaps 3 times better, so the fact that we went from the effective cone area of sixty four eight inch drivers playing questionable sound to  one eight inch driver playing liquid gold makes it an almost even tradeoff.  To my great surprise it's the best I've heard red-book digital sound in this room.

Yes, I am pretty sure I must glue the speakers to the floor tonight so that the gremlins in the night don't move them as they're so fond of doing.

-Steve

Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/22/14 at 05:07:35 by Steve Deckert »  
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #29 - 09/22/14 at 05:16:25
 
I'll be amazed if it sounds half this good tomorrow during the day. I mean it IS 11:00 P.M.  Right now, the sound is 5 feet above the speakers and wall to wall.  It's pretty sick.


Steve
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/22/14 at 05:23:20 by Steve Deckert »  
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #30 - 09/22/14 at 05:49:21
 
OK,  I exceeded the speed limit there for a minute...  that was pretty exciting!

Smiley
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
deucekazoo
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 303
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #31 - 09/22/14 at 13:31:33
 
Steve,
Setup looks real good. Can't wait to hear it!
John
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #32 - 09/22/14 at 16:16:32
 

Wow that looks great! And your description practically has me salivating!

I wish we had time to run the DirectStream through your OTL amp to see if we could take it up a notch. PS Audio is releasing an updated firmware this week that I think addresses some of the issues we heard when we played this DAC at our last listening session.

I'm honestly afraid I'd pop a circuit with the "new" DS on your OTL amp, especially on those speakers as you have them setup now!

Anywho - looking forward to Decfest - when you get excited about sound, good things tend to follow.  :)
Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #33 - 09/22/14 at 22:41:25
 
I was going to play the digital rig today, but I got sidetracked with a 15 IPS audiophile grade recording of the Beetles.  The tape was on an old industrial Ampex reel that I purchased for scrap.  No one know what was on the tape.  I have to say that after listening to this tape, whoever mastered the Beetles CD's should be brought up on charges for what they did to them.  Shameful.

Steve
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #34 - 09/22/14 at 22:49:29
 
Oooh! I want to hear that!

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #35 - 09/24/14 at 04:56:21
 
Thanks to the Audio Gods who purposely sabotaged my Acoustats in the final hours of Decfest, I have for the very first time achieved the TRIFECTA of audio rooms.  I have tape, my vinyl rig, and the Digital side of the room sounding as good as the formats will allow on all three fronts.  I can go from Tape to vinyl to CD without vomiting.  In fact with only two beers I can go from tape to digital and get completely lost in the better recordings.

Anyway, keep in mind it's fairly easy to get caught up in an Audio high and spew out of bunch of highly exuberant audio babble designed to seed excitement, and quite another to do it, and then have everyone show up to witness it first hand and find out you weren't making things up.  So on that note I'll forgive my exuberance about this years fest and rest comfortably in the knowledge that it will be the best sound ever, on all three fronts of any Decfest to date.

Getting back to last nights digital side of the room, just for kicks, I duplicated the experience I had last night with Dave tonight after listening to one of the best analog tapes we've ever heard.  Directly afterwards I fired up the OTL and FRX drivers and played a CD that kept him locked to the couch for 34 minutes, a new world record.

No it's not tape. No it's not even LP, but it doesn't suck, and usually in the past it mostly did... well, suck.

Tonight we took the Beetles tape and put it on the serious tape machine with the butterfly heads and listened to a compilation of over a dozen early Beetles pre 1967 songs that were recorded actually in the same league as the Diana Krall LP's we've all grown to love.  Imagine a recording of the Beetles sounding more audiophile and refined than a Diana Krall LP. That's what we witnessed, and that's what we're going to play during the fest among other things that will be memorable to say the least.  

I guarantee that those who plan their fest around 8 o'clock all three nights will achieve audio ruination in the same way it has effected us. You'll never see music the same way again, but on a positive note, you'll realize that it's possible to achieve sound beyond what you realized was possible, It will restore your faith and hope when you hear what it was really like BEFORE it got so waxed.

Now that we've really digested this Beetles tape, like other tapes we've heard, the first impression  or at least the first comment you make to the other guy listening with you is "I had no idea they were actually that good., they're at least twice or three times better than I knew. "I simply changes everything. It changes your perception of reality because it is reality.  

Tonight we had the Beetles unplugged in our listening room sound completely real, and astonishingly good. As though they were really hear. As though it were real. The complete 1000% polar opposite of even their best White album, this was not even comparable. I estimate the value of this tape upwards of a grand.

I couldn't be more excited Decfest coming only a week away!  Usually I'm fairly stressed.  Now I feel armed and ready.  Bring it on, as they say... You visit here will be memorable, and perhaps in more positive and profound ways than it was in the early days... some of you know what I'm talking about. Memerable it was... yes, positive... not completely sure.

Can't wait to see everyone.

Cheers,

Steve Smiley


Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/24/14 at 05:03:24 by Steve Deckert »  
WWW   IP Logged
Auguie
Senior Member
***




Posts: 70
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #36 - 09/24/14 at 22:31:06
 
Steve,

OMG!!!  I'm doing my best to be there Fri & Sat, but at least Sat for sure.  Can you PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE play the Beatles tape on Sat evening?  PRETTY PLEASE STEVE!!!  I'm working to get the Mono LP set and a mono cart.  It would be nice to have a reference to compare the mono set to.

Hope to hear this tape on Sat evening...Please Please Me (Yea...I know...it's intentional), and other too!

Dan
Back to top
 
 

Decware SE84CS M Monoblocks & HDT Speakers; First Sound Presence Deluxe MK I Pre Amp; Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1/Oppo 971H (as transport for now); VPI Scout/Dynavector 10X5 Cart; Phonomena II Phono Pre; Magnum Dynalab FT101A Etude Tuner; XLO/Wireworld/Signal Cables.
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #37 - 09/25/14 at 00:13:27
 
no problem!

Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
stone_of_tone
Seasoned Member
****


Listen Often/Listen
Deep

Posts: 2638
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #38 - 09/26/14 at 04:20:32
 
Oh, do I wish I could go to the fest. I will be online for it.

Steve, are you considering going OTL with the 6c33c?


Listening Room:
Room Treatments from Michael Green & Home Brew
Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60 (.5 meter)
Chord Chordette QuteHD DAC  ~ OR ~
Audio Alchemy DTI Pro-32 in 20 bit Dither to Audio Prophecy Cryoed Silver Reference i2s to Audio Alchemy DAC 3.0 with Remote
Kimber Select KS1030 IC RCA (.75 meter)
Decware CSP3 w/Jupiter Caps
Kimber Select KS1030 IC RCA (.5 meter)
Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
Kimber Select KS3035 Speaker Cable
Vintage Polk SDA1 Speakers (in Stereo)
XLO Pro Power Cords to CSP3 & ZMA
All four units plugged into Adcom AC-Enhancer 515
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/26/14 at 15:05:15 by stone_of_tone »  

Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60
Audio Alchemy DTI-Pro
Audio Magic Mystic Reference I2S
Audio Alchemy DDE 3.0
Kimber Select 1030
Zen Select #76
Kimber Select 3033
Polk Audio LS-90
Tri-config/TipToes & Vibropods underneath Speakers
360 degree Rm Treats
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #39 - 09/26/14 at 19:03:31
 
I am considering it, yes...  however I don't really want to make an amplifier that people won't buy, so this year at the fest I am going to give my prototype OTL a lot of air time to see peoples reactions and try to gauge the amount of money they would be willing to spend on this kind of sound.  

Amplifiers using tubes like this AND built the old school way are far from practical and anything but cheep. For example, this OTL SET amp requires 7 power supplies, the largest being a high voltage supply rated at 4000 mA. A Torii or Mystery Amp by comparison uses only 300 ~ 340 mA. An amplifier like this OTL creates enough heat to keep a room warm in the dead of winter, so using it during the summer in a small room would be difficult without central air. Does it sound better than a Torii or ZMA, yes it does. Does that make it a better sounding amp, not nessesarily. We'll just see what people think about it and without knowing how much it would cost to make a pair of monoblocks we'll just say 10 grand.  If we don't throw out a number like this, literally everyone will want a Decware OTL SET amplifier until they find out what it costs and then they'll be disappointed. This is in fact why I've always kept it either hidden or off limits during past Decfests.



Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/27/14 at 00:43:13 by Steve Deckert »  
WWW   IP Logged
stone_of_tone
Seasoned Member
****


Listen Often/Listen
Deep

Posts: 2638
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #40 - 09/26/14 at 21:23:15
 
Cool Steve, I'm certainly interested in their reactions an interested.
Back to top
 
 

Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60
Audio Alchemy DTI-Pro
Audio Magic Mystic Reference I2S
Audio Alchemy DDE 3.0
Kimber Select 1030
Zen Select #76
Kimber Select 3033
Polk Audio LS-90
Tri-config/TipToes & Vibropods underneath Speakers
360 degree Rm Treats
  IP Logged
beowulf
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 1298
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #41 - 09/26/14 at 23:59:04
 
Is the OTL different than the other S.E.T. in devlopment that was spoken about in the previous thread?
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
litefootdan
Senior Member
***




Posts: 79
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #42 - 09/27/14 at 00:46:46
 
A bit late with my response, but I'm hoping to come by for all three days.  I can't wait to see you all again and hear some phenomenal amplifiers and speakers!!!  Glad to hear the turntable will be spinning.     Smiley
Back to top
 
 

Ortofon 2M Bronze | Merrillized AR "The Turntable" | ZP 2 | Decware Torii MKIV | Hartley Holton A
  IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #43 - 09/27/14 at 01:00:28
 
Is it different remains to be seen.  My first thought was to make a classic SET amp with this tube, but the output transformer is simply massive which gives me real pause when thinking ahead to trying to ship the amps. I'm going to build a pair anyway - since I have the custom made transformers here, and I expect the process will just convince me to make the OTL version.  Time will tell.

Steve
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Steve Deckert
Administrator
*****


If the 1st watt
sucks why continue?

Posts: 3106
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #44 - 09/27/14 at 01:04:55
 
The vinyl will be spinning as part of the analog demonstration each night starting around 8:00 and you're welcome to bring your own vinyl if there is something specific you want to hear.
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
vraxis
Verified Member
**




Posts: 8
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #45 - 09/27/14 at 01:35:54
 
Count me in for Saturday!  Always great fun to meet people and have an opportunity to listen to world class equipment.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #46 - 09/27/14 at 03:35:52
 

Looks like I'm going to have to start sweeping floors at Decware for a couple years to afford the OTL amp.

This is the one amp that would make me set aside the ZMA. But it is a different sound that takes some time to handle.

Back to top
 
 
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
SteveC
Seasoned Member
****




Posts: 133
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #47 - 09/27/14 at 04:17:19
 
I've been to the last 2 fests. And I really wish I could come to this one.   Unfortunately life and situations have been upturned so that it's just not prudent for me to make the trip this year.  When back on my feet, I'll shoot for next year.  Will miss seeing everyone and all the cool new toys. very likely will be watching live feeds and stuff.   Have fun everyone.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
stone_of_tone
Seasoned Member
****


Listen Often/Listen
Deep

Posts: 2638
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #48 - 09/27/14 at 14:57:02
 
Despite the heat an the potential cost, I'm still interested. Keeping it in one chassis as seen would be great too. I would need to hear it (stating the obvious).

Steve, I would like to hear the OTL an the classic SET with the massive output transformers. I would have no objection to paying freight/insured, both ways, for the OTL/6c33c an SET/6c33c. To hear them in my Listening Room would be the deciding factor.

Steve wrote:
"I expect the process will just convince me to make the OTL version".

Having the OTL in alone would be fine too. From what I'm understanding it is Special. If I love it....I would like one.  


Listening Room:
Room Treatments from Michael Green & Home Brew
Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60 (.5 meter)
Chord Chordette QuteHD DAC  ~ OR ~
Audio Alchemy DTI Pro-32 in 20 bit Dither to Audio Prophecy Cryoed Silver Reference i2s to Audio Alchemy DAC 3.0 with Remote
Kimber Select KS1030 IC RCA (.75 meter)
Decware CSP3 w/Jupiter Caps
Kimber Select KS1030 IC RCA (.5 meter)
Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
Kimber Select KS3035 Speaker Cable
Vintage Polk SDA1 Speakers (in Stereo)
XLO Pro Power Cords to CSP3 & ZMA
All four units plugged into Adcom AC-Enhancer 515

Decware Zen Select #76 (SE84CS).....SV83 Sveltlana's
Decware Super Zen CKC
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/27/14 at 15:04:14 by stone_of_tone »  

Sony as Transport
Illuminati D-60
Audio Alchemy DTI-Pro
Audio Magic Mystic Reference I2S
Audio Alchemy DDE 3.0
Kimber Select 1030
Zen Select #76
Kimber Select 3033
Polk Audio LS-90
Tri-config/TipToes & Vibropods underneath Speakers
360 degree Rm Treats
  IP Logged
Lonely Raven
Seasoned Member
****


Jack of all Trades,
Master of None

Posts: 2964
Re: DECWARE Zen Fest 2014 ~ Oct 3rd, 4th, 5th
Reply #49 - 09/27/14 at 18:17:22
 
Some of you probably think I'm nuts when I say stuff like this, but I describe it as I see/feel/hear it, and oftentimes the builder (in this case Steve) usually agrees with me.

Back before I had the ZMA, Steve gave me a taste of his one-off OTL amp - not 10 seconds into the session, I almost yelled out for him to stop playing music, as the sound was a bit overwhelming; it was a bit of sensory overload honestly. The sound was so dense (being played from his Teac DAC mind you) and visceral, that for a second my brain said "reach out and see if you can touch it as it goes by"

Two times in my life that sound reproduction has pretty much popped the circuit of my brain, both times were with Steve.

Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 09/27/14 at 18:19:46 by Lonely Raven »  
WWW Lonely Raven   IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4
Send Topic Print