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CSP3 as a Pre-amp
12/07/13 at 06:19:13
 
I want to share my experience of the Preamp function of the CSP3.

In audio, system synergy is very important.
The following will probably sound like a "Good Cop, Bad Cop" routine. Wink

1. Yarland FV34A-MK4
This a a nifty little tube amp which was awarded a realization award by Sixmoons.

It is a SE EL34 based tube amp.
It can operate as either an integrated amp or as a power amp.

As an integrated amp, it is sonically very clear.

When I paired my CSP3 with this amp, it took my Yarland amp to another sonic level with increased vocal presence.
The overall sound was more seductive.
There was no sonic veil introduced into the audio chain and my Yarland amp had the same sonic clarity as before.

This sonically seductive pre-amp and amp combo was actually on par with my 100hrs+ Torii Mk4!
(More details below)

2. Torii MK4
When I paired up the CSP3 with the Torii MK4, I could hear a slight sonic veil introduced in my audio chain.

I therefore prefer to run the Torii MK4 directly from the source.

3. Epilogue
With more burn-in (150 hrs), the Torii MK4 is slowly and inexorably surpassing the above-mentioned audio combo.
The vocals now have even more seductive "presence".
The phantom center channel is also more centered.

As usual, YMMV.


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Re: CSP3 as a Pre-amp
Reply #1 - 12/12/13 at 16:12:58
 
how about First Watt M2 or F3  with CSP3  and Omega super 6 Alnico monitors  (93db).  Can anyone comment ?  looking for an amp .  currently using a TBI Millenia. its a bit noisy.  i think there is too much gain in the amp?   not too good at this technical stuff.  i am on a budget.
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Re: CSP3 as a Pre-amp
Reply #2 - 12/13/13 at 01:17:25
 
pann56,

Most of the First Watt amps should work extremely well with the CSP3 and Omegas.
There is a first generation Taboo for sale here ($400) that should make the Super 6s sing. Smiley
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Reply #3 - 12/13/13 at 14:38:01
 
is there any info on this amp ? i can't seem to find it on the website
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Reply #4 - 12/13/13 at 14:56:20
 
The CSP3 is a preamplifier/headphone amplifier and its page can be accessed form the page "Amplifiers"

http://www.decware.com/newsite/CSP3.html
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Reply #5 - 12/13/13 at 17:20:27
 
yep.  Thats the preamp i have.  i was wondering about the Taboo that Lin said was available fo sale.  I can't find anything on it.  Is that another model ?  i was just looking into amp alternatives for my TBI MIllenia with the CSP2 as i mentioned above,    thx!
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Re: CSP3 as a Pre-amp
Reply #6 - 12/13/13 at 17:42:17
 
I'm not sure which version of the Taboo Linn has for sale, there have been three different releases. Here is the current page for the current version of the Taboo amp.

http://www.decware.com/newsite/TABOO.htm
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Reply #7 - 12/14/13 at 05:11:17
 
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Reply #8 - 03/08/14 at 22:44:01
 
Any idea what the impedance output is for the csp2+. Am trying to see if it will work with a First Watt F3 that requires a 10k ohm impedance input. Thanks.
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Reply #9 - 03/09/14 at 02:02:40
 
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Reply #10 - 03/09/14 at 11:26:49
 
Thank you Lin. I was warned that most tube preamps have a much higher output impedance.
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Re: CSP3 as a Pre-amp
Reply #11 - 03/10/14 at 08:10:13
 
The CSP2+ won't be happy with the load. It only has a 0.33uf output cap.
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