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NAD M51 Direct Digital DAC
09/13/13 at 15:34:22
 
I ordered the M51. I should have it my System by Tuesday or Wednesday night. Hooking her via coax with an Illuminati D-60 into the M51 for CD redbook standard. I like this PWM concept on anything it is feed. The proof is in the Listening though.

I will have it for couple of weeks before the FEST...if she does what all the Review Monkey's say it does...even for redbook....I will bring it to the FEST. Or heck, I will just bring it anyway. It take just minutes to plug and play directly to an Amp.

....So were not just "feeding" on high res files all Weekend.  Lets take the Redbook and pump it up high res with PWM and see how it compares.

If it blows and does not pass scrutiny at the FEST....I will have it back on the road with an RA# on the 7th or 8th of October.   -Stone
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Re: NAD M51 Direct Digital DAC
Reply #1 - 09/13/13 at 15:42:57
 
Cool. I've been disappointed with NAD digital products I've heard and owned in the past in comparison to other makers. Will be interesting to hear your opinion.
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Reply #2 - 09/13/13 at 15:54:37
 
Hi Stone, the M51 seems like an interesting product and concept (especially the PWM conversion) and the price seems reasonable compared to a lot of other things out there.  Have you thought about the other components in the chain such as the M50 and/or the M52?
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Reply #3 - 09/13/13 at 16:06:34
 
Lon, this should be fun. I know Steve allows customers to bring Speakers etc...for the first day Friday...and this should be interesting. I am going down Thursday night and plan on being at Steve's by noon-1 o'clock on Friday the 4th, with this bugger in hand and my Sony T-Port via Sony DVP-NS57P and Illuminati D-60. Will use Steve's IC and Speaker Cable.

Some might scuff at this T-Port. However, I played with quite a few to settle on this one (and have a few new ones in boxes on the shelf)...and I would put this model up against any Oppo being used as a T-Port (for example).

I know their are owner's here of the Wyred for Sound Dac2. The Dac2 will make it my way if the NAD M51 leaves my way.... .

The Weiss DAC202 looks nice too......but up there $.

Nope, beowulf, this all about the redbook in its basic form as I posted. Steve has a better mouse trap than the M50-52 for hi - rez that we can pump into the M51..... .
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Reply #4 - 09/13/13 at 16:12:26
 
Cool. That sort of procuct and the Zenfest are both not my sort of thing. But you'll have fun!

I would think if you didn't like the PS Audio Duo you wouldn't be impressed with the Wyred4Sound, all the reviews of that say that it's similar to the PS Audio.
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Reply #5 - 09/13/13 at 16:20:03
 
Lon, that is why I went with the NAD before the Wyred Dac2.

Did you get in to streaming and/or hi-rez files Lon?

This would be right up your alley (inserting CD on platter) from T-port to DAC like you currently do with the PWTransport & PWDAC right?

I should bring this simple Sony T-port of mine and my AA front end and blow peoples minds that have only been into outboard DACS for the last 8 to 10 years (redbook from CD Transport not hi-rez).
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Reply #6 - 09/13/13 at 16:35:15
 
I don't stream and I do have hi res material though I don't really listen to it that often.DVD-A and SACD and a few hi-res wav files burned to cdr and played in the Duo (I can't burn my own so I don't have many). And lots of vinyl listening when I can (the original hi res). No interest in streaming, digital files, etc. None. I have thousands of discs and I like them. Don't do portable or computer audio.
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Reply #7 - 09/13/13 at 16:48:48
 
I'm with you brother. I am not saying I will never get into it. However, I to, like you, am not interested in Ripping all of my 900 CD's to a Hard drive....etc...etc.....for the rest of the chain.

Yes, I can appreciate it.

But, like old Sam Telig has so eloquently stated....even SACD came to the party a day late and a dollar short for those of us whom have large CD collections and HAVE FOUND A GOOD TPORT - DAC COMBO TO MAKE MUSIC .......already. (....but, the M51 intrigues me for my pursuit of the better mouse trap for my ear brain connection when/if my AA gear dies).....

I suppose I'll be forced into it when the CD physical media no longer exists for purchase. The Chesky brother's stuff/site looks cool too where a lot of what I like is turning up.

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Reply #8 - 09/13/13 at 16:56:14
 
Yeah. I have more than 15 times as many cds that would or could be ripped. It's just not worth my time. I could enjoy more hi-res tracks on DVD-R via the Transport but I don't have the time to make these nor the equipment and I obviously don't want them enough. Unlike you I love the PS Audio Duo (especially through the CSP2+ which just complements its strengths) and am just set with one in each system, a Torii Mk III in each system, soon a CSP2+ in both systems, great Blu-ray players and SACD players in both systems, and soon (well, who knows, they're ordered and paid for) HR-1s in both systems (can't wait to try my ERRs in my Dad's living room). I'm just going to be playing around with wire and isolation stuff now. Ah, feels so good.
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Reply #9 - 09/13/13 at 17:06:35
 
Lon, I should have given the PS Audio more time (and I duly take note of your mention through the CSP2+). I am very pleased with Music Direct and their service.  It was excellent.  I might have those back in. Not kidding, as I continue my quest....because my AA stuff could die.

I look forward to having fun at the FEST...but also seriously listening to Steve, his new products and learning something.... .

The HR 1's are getting serious attention from me. Have a great weekend Lon and I hope you enjoy the Ohio Fall weather coming up....even though you must miss Austin a bit.    -Stone
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Reply #10 - 09/13/13 at 17:37:59
 
I miss Austin a TON, mainly because the love of my life is still there and can't be here (she's taking care of her Mom and has an incredibly important job she won't leave).

Looking forward to fall. . . maybe not winter. . .here in Ohio. Wish I could get out in it more!
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Reply #11 - 09/13/13 at 20:25:26
 
I also wanted to mention we bring our own biases to the Table.

I think this is not a bad thing. For instance, I had over 80 hours on the PWT/PWD combo and used both the HDMI and D-60 Coax. However, I could not get the extension in the Treble that I love to exploit with the SE84CS with my Sveltlana original SV83 Tubes (simply the best tubes IMHO-in the SE84CS). My Audio Alchemy gear can get that extension in 20 bit dither. So, I probably won't have the Combo back in.

Furthermore, my biases, of what I have come to find, is best for my ear brain connection are:
-I went through quite a few Transport Trials and found this cheap DVD Player I listed above, bested a Marantz that could not even output the bits and lock to my DTI Pro 32 for example.
-If you take the Illuminati D-60 Coax Digital Cable out...music magic is gone.
-If you take the Cryo treated i2s Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver out of the chain... music magic is gone.
http://www.revelationaudiolabs.com/cables-digital/index.htm#i2s
-The DTI Pro 32 & DAC 3.0 work together....separate them...music magic is gone.
-Take the Kimber Select 1030 IC out and replace with the very good Kimber KCAG, Kimber Hero or AudioQuest Diamondback....music magic is gone with my SE84CS.
-Take the 3033 Speaker Cable out of the chain....music magic is gone.

-Bring the  Parker Audio High efficiency speakers in the Listening Room...these 95db SPL at 1 watt/1 meter can't handle the resolution of my front end in 20bit dither through the SE84CS with my Kimber Select Reference Cables. Period.

So, the moral of the story is...we like what we like and we know it when we hear it....if it is involving for our ear brain connection.

Lon, I hope you see your Gal soon.  -Stone
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Reply #12 - 09/13/13 at 21:05:16
 
Oh definitely we like what we like and all our rooms are different. For instance if you couldn't get the treble extension out of the PS Audio DAC Mk II. . .  I don't know what to say because I wouldn't enjoy it at all if what it has you find that lacking. I cannot handle a lot of treble, just enough, and the PS Audio DAC (and any front end I've had) is always tempered with the Toriis' treble cut switch. As this switch seems to have more limited range in the Mk IV, and Steve says that amp is more aggressive, that convinces me I should stick with my Mk III.

Going to be a long time til I see my gal again Stone, maybe not til next year. Thank goodness I got to spend a few days with her in August.
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Reply #13 - 09/14/13 at 03:51:44
 
Stone, I listened to the Nad, the Weiss and the WFS Dac 2. I settled on the little known boutique made Anedio D2. It is simply many layers more transparent then all the others. Which is quite a statement. In order of preference based on transparency and resolution it would be:

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The WFS was too dark, thick and veiled. But if a system or room is bright it might be just the thing. I liked the Weiss and Nad allot, but the Anedio D2 is just simply divine and the digital volume control is fantastic. Part digital and analog. Remote control, and sounds best with NO preamp. I tried some preamps just to see if i was missing anything and everything just took away from the transparency and resolution. Its great with Redbook and high res. High res is so smooth and yet so detailed, I keep shaking my head in disbelief. Imaging is unreal which comes from the great care taken with channel separation.

To my ears USB and Coax (I am using the pure silver Oyaide DB-510 BNC Coax) both sound equally good. I sold my Audiophileo with Pure Power as it added nothing to the Anedio D2. It is also a killer head phone amp to boot. Mine is fed with a Bryston BDP-1 and I just could not be happier.
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Reply #14 - 09/14/13 at 06:50:02
 
^ Interesting. I had decided on the Anedio D2 as my ideal DAC following a lot of reading, analysing and the occasional PM with owners. Just as I made this decision, Anedio decided not to deal internationally any more Sad

The NAD is one I was pretty interested in, alongside Lynx HiLo, Schiit Audio's yet-to-be released Yggdrasil, and PWD2 among others.

Never mind. Have been evaluating the new BMC PureDAC the last few days. So far, remarkable.

Looking forward to hearing how the NAD works out...
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Reply #15 - 09/14/13 at 17:26:26
 
Lon, I understand, I am just into that extended treble deal.... .

Orangecrush & AiDee, thanks for pointing me towards the Anedio D2. I will receive my M51 on Tuesday (fedx is great around here). I look forward to spending time with it as described in this OP/thread.

I am going to order the D2 on Monday and do a head to head comparison over the next two weeks....to 30 days.  One of them will be returned (or I might keep them both). Thanks again Orange Crush.

Aidee, not cool, they stopped international shipping. However, looks like you have a winner on your side of the ocean in the BMC PureDac.  -Stone
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Reply #16 - 09/15/13 at 00:31:30
 
Stone, yes I'm very happy with the PureDAC, no regrets at all. I'll post some impressions once I've done some comparisons and calmed down a bit Wink

I could understand Anedio's decision to focus on the US; seems they're too small to handle an international market right now, and made the right call to maintain good service and have time for new designs.

Tongue hanging out to hear the results of your M51/D2 comparison!
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Reply #17 - 09/15/13 at 01:38:34
 
That Pure Dac looks very promising indeed especially since it DSP ready. I was on a long quest for a Dac that I just feel in love with. I started off going down the NOS and tube Dac road but contrary to popular opinion I found them all harsh, muddy and slow. Can't wait to hear more from both you and Stone. I even tried a ZStage with my Anedio D2 and Torii to be able the ride the gain, but it just added noise, lowered the resolving power and took away the transparency. I think that is the best thing about these new breeds of Dacs with well implemented volume controls. Less is more.

At first you might think the Anedio is a little light sounding. Then you realize it is just that the noise floor is so low that the extreme clarity just shine through like pure sweet golden sunlight. You will play your music at higher levels due to this without any fatigue. After a year, it still gives me goose bumps.

I have never heard the PSAudio Dac, but I heard someone compare it to driving in a Cadillac while obeying the speed limit on a cloudy day and the Anedio D2 to an exotic sports car, full speed, with the top down on a sunny day. Just different strokes for different folks.
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Reply #18 - 09/16/13 at 11:18:15
 
Very interesting notes about the Anedio orangecrush! I am definitely sorry I didn't get to try this DAC.

Never mind. I didn't expect to post this soon but you'll find I started a thread (I expect it'll be quite short-lived) that relays my initial impressions of the PureDAC. I'm not sure I calmed down yet, but I hope I did manage to be fairly sober with my notes anyway!
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Reply #19 - 09/16/13 at 11:37:28
 
Thanks for the impressions! I know how it is when you find a front end that just sings with your system (I'm in love with my PS Audio DAC Mk II and Transport---one in each system!) Will be fun to read your further impressions.
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Reply #20 - 09/16/13 at 18:24:58
 
There are a lot of interesting new DACs, but I don't think I'd buy anything that doesn't do DSD.

http://www.audiostream.com/content/dsd-resources-dsd-dac-list
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Reply #21 - 09/16/13 at 20:54:26
 
If anyone is interested Anedio is having a free 2 week sample evaluation with the D2 DAC ... this is a great opportunity for anyone considering this product.  All you pay is shipping and handling both ways!

Contact: anedio_info@anedio.com and put Sample Evaluation Program in the subject header ...
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Reply #22 - 09/16/13 at 22:37:12
 
"If anyone is interested Anedio is having a free 2 week sample evaluation with the D2 DAC ... this is a great opportunity for anyone considering this product.  All you pay is shipping and handling both ways!

Contact: anedio_info@anedio.com and put Sample Evaluation Program in the subject header ..."

Don't they already give you 30 days?
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Reply #23 - 09/17/13 at 05:09:01
 
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Don't they already give you 30 days?


If you buy it from them yes, however this is not a purchase it works similar to an Audio Circle (or other forum) Tour.  There is no purchase, you put your name on the Anedio evaluation list and it is sent to you for a 2 week period in which you can evaluate before committing.  It's a pretty cool idea if you happen to have another DAC or 2 for comparisons.  For instance Stone already purchased a M51 DAC for evaluation, if he wanted he could get on the list and instead of having to buy the Anedio he could just be part of the tour and it will be sent to him (less money out of pocket, etc.)
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Reply #24 - 09/17/13 at 17:42:00
 
I personally see no reason to buy a DSD DAC today. The format was good idea many years ago (before hi res PCM) but not now. It presents serious challanges and does not necesarily any sound better than Hi Res PCM. Lots of audio engineers and dac makers are speaking up on this subject to dispel the many misconceptions and hype around DSD. Look around, there is lots to read. It is not by any means the holy grail of digital audio and it will take years to see if it going to make any substantial impact on high end audio. Many audio engineers feel it is already dead but just been kept alive my zealots and marketing departments.
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Reply #26 - 09/17/13 at 21:14:42
 
I was fortunate to get home today and sign for my M51. I have now spent almost 3 hours with it and I am very pleased right out of the box. Marcus Miller M2...as I type....just wonderful via coax Illuminati D-60 into M51.

I have come to realize this past hour, it has a lower noise floor in my estimation, from how dead silent it is with an ear up to the Speakers and of course, at the Listening Chair in my Listening Room. Tone-Timbre-Texture is there, with detail that I like and love about my Audio Alchemy gear. Soundstage is deeper and this NAD M51 is flat out musical running into my SE84CS with Kimber Select! I am also playing louder without audible compression kickin' in through my CS.....and it is singing music!

Now I can move my Audio Alchemy gear to my bedroom System/CKC. It takes cables & Tube Amps plenty of time to burn in-in my 23 years of experience. For example, my SuperZen CKC is still coming along and sounding sweet (10.5 months). However, digital gear?  I can tell pretty damn quick...after a few key full Discs/songs.  Thank you NAD=great job!

McGowan, needs to quit dinkin' around with his firmware and changing  his so called Native 44.1 too, when he dinks on the USB firmware upgrades. I know some people (maybe a lot), are not happy about it over at the PS Audio Forum/from what I read. I put 80 hours on the PWT/PWDII PS Audio units....and they were veiled and just like that cozy Cadillac metaphor Orangecrush, you were so succinct with/the PS Audio gear was.....the NAD is better for my System.

I have not forgotten about ordering the Anedio D2 Dac....should/will happen. I am going to enjoy the NAD M51 first.  She's a keeper. -Stone
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Reply #27 - 09/17/13 at 21:47:40
 
Stone I am really glad the NAD adds up! Good to know.

As we try to climb the res ladder, feel out format, and with still, relatively speaking, such a small proportion of excellent sounding high res files, I love my Tranquility NOS DAC. It makes Redbook sound like music. Though I get the issues, as Hider at DbAudioLabs has said, 44.1/16 bit is a lot of information, that is if you can pull it and put it back together with finesse!
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Reply #28 - 09/17/13 at 21:57:55
 
Wow, I would go as far to say if it sounds this good right out of the box - it's a winner!

I just checked out a cool video explaination on some of the features over at: http://www.spearitsound.com/product.cgi?group=116&product=4267

I know you're just using it for redbook correct?  But I could see this as a great tool for watching movies in 2 channel as well (not to mention PC streaming).  Very interested in this product.

Thanks for your impressions!
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Reply #29 - 09/17/13 at 22:01:21
 
Will, hiRez will get there....and price might get better too.

However, mean while, I'll stick with perfecting Redbook with the capability to go hiRez when I'm ready.  I need to hear the NAD M51 via the balanced outputs into the Mystery Amp and/or BAT - VK-55 SE Tube Amplifier.  Cheers, Stone
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Reply #30 - 09/17/13 at 22:08:19
 
Beowulf, I do like that it has two HDMI inputs to pump some DVD audio and Blu-Ray audio out of it.  If compatible/not wonky....firmware this and firmware that..... . -S
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Reply #31 - 09/17/13 at 22:25:57
 
It is sort of amazing that it sounds great right off. Good sign! It would appear that just the caps in there are going to take a little time to reach their potential, not to mention everything else! Great news for NAD.
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Reply #32 - 09/17/13 at 23:22:29
 
Cool.
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Reply #33 - 09/17/13 at 23:28:57
 
Orangcrush,

I have a W4S DAC-2 and a few others at the moment.... and though I have never heard or seen the Anedio D2 or the Weis, I have compared my W4S to the NAD and at least a dozen other DACs... I have never heard the W4S sound:

"dark, thick and veiled"

compared to anything I've tried.. very interesting.  I never heard it described this way.  Its certainly not "forward" if that is ones definition of "detailed", but it has about as much rez, air and transient speed, dynamics, snap and realism as any DAC I've heard.  Makes me wonder what the context of the system was you heard it in and if the unit you heard was "in spec" or something else was fubar.

Just goes to show how so many companies can make $$ producing and selling DAC's... as there are so many varying sonic tastes, systems and room synergy to contend with.

I also am a firm believer that in today's digital world you do not have to possess a 2nd mortgage priced DAC in order to get world class sound.  The DAC chips are getting so advanced that performance differences are pretty narrow.  The real variable is the analog output stage after the DAC and filter.  And the implementation of the input to allow for different bit and sampling rates, input format, remote control, etc. are the only real distinguishing traits.  If you don't believe it, just go have a listen to any of the current crop of sub $500 overachiever's in volume matched A/B's and prepare to be stunned!
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Reply #34 - 09/18/13 at 03:25:18
 
Compared to Anedio and Weiss, its like black and white for me. The Nad I place just above the WFS in the transparency department.
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Reply #35 - 09/18/13 at 16:41:12
 

doesn't line up that way to my ears or the systems & rooms I've tried it in... about 5-6 A/B's to date.  

In fact I haven't heard what I would classify as "Night & Day" differences between DAC's/players in years.  The gaps in SQ have narrowed significantly as the processing chips have advanced.  Generally one can hear/identify "differences", but not night & day like you could with dacs/players back in the late 80's and thru the 90's.  The quality of the recording/production in most cases has far greater impact on the SQ coming out of the speakers anymore - just my experience (2-3 DAC's per year pass thru my systems on average, I have 5 at the moment) and opinion.

but as we all know, hearing is an individual "perception" - if you think you hear it - then you do - end of argument.

but I would encourage anybody out there who is DAC shopping in that price range, listen to the W4S for yourself.  And you should also have a listen to the Schiit Audio DAC's too before you lay down any more of your hard-earned $$$$.  Mike Moffat at Schiit goes way back with Theta Digital, and they know what they're doing.

As always, let your ears be the judge!  

happy listening..!!   Smiley
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Reply #36 - 09/18/13 at 20:23:05
 
Yes, let your ears be the judge.

I am getting transparency with the M51 (and my AA front end) because of the transparency and wide bandwidth that the SE84CS provides with the original Svetlana SV83. Plus, my Kimber Select 1030 IC & Kimber Select 3033 Speaker Cable....the resolution with these does not allow me to use my Parker Audio Crusader or Zu Audio Union Speakers.  These two Speakers just flat out can't handle the resolution...especially in the extended highs.

Furthermore, the low noise flow of the internal preamp and quality precision of it...is to praise NAD with deep pockets for doing so.  Cheers, Stone
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Reply #37 - 09/19/13 at 18:08:34
 
.....I am going to get the Anedio D2 in the next few weeks. With every intention of keeping it along with the wonderful M51. It is great that their are a half dozen good DACS out there and reasonable.

I had a chance to Listen to the M51 again this morning...and you just want to turn it up more and more! I am very pleased.  -S
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Reply #38 - 09/19/13 at 18:17:08
 
Great news. Thanks for keeping us up on your explorations!
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Reply #39 - 09/19/13 at 18:31:07
 
Will do Will.

Different flavor's of slight variations.

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Mystery Amplifier......Pending Purchase... .

Digital Front Ends:

NAD M51
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Over & Out...for a little while. But, I will return with impressions of these 3 Digital Front Ends compared...and down the road....the Mystery Amp on its respective thread.  Cheers all, Stone of Tone
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Reply #40 - 09/19/13 at 20:59:36
 
That's awesome Stone, can't wait till you get the Anedio as it is so much more transparent. Definitely could be too much for some set-ups, but if your a resolution junky, you will love it.

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Reply #41 - 09/20/13 at 16:39:29
 
How can I stay away!

I ordered the Anedio D2 this morning!

Orangecrush, I am a resolution junky. The Holographic Kimber 1030 just gets the hell out of the way and is so musical.

Fourth day on my NAD M51 and my initial impressions still hold...and she is burning in nicely. I think because of the lower noise floor/preamp integration in conjunction with the 35 bit...etc...has me loving this DAC.

Big, bold & clean....great Timbre. Last word in Transparency like my Audio Alchemy front End = NO. However, what the NAD51 is doing in other area's....it is still in my System and staying. It might end up in the Living room Rig (to be detailed at a later date)...or my great Bedroom System (to be detailed/explained)....so, the NAD M51 is staying.

The Anedio D2 might very well dethrone it. But, it also has to dethrone my Audio Alchemy too.  Orangecrush?...I am betting it is a keeper.

I still have to A-B-A it back to my Audio Alchemy reference.
Of course, I look forward to comparing the 3 of them. A lot of fun and to hell with 30 day returns....I am keeping the 2 of them and will offer impressions of them in 3 different Systems over the next year...and with the SE84CS, CKC.........AND MYSTERY AMP.  

A lot of fun!  Cheers, Stone

PS-I should mention, I'm currently doing Redbook only via Illuminati D-60 output from Transport. However, I will dive into hi-rez with the Blu-Ray Audio offerings....gleaning the 2 channel layer via the HDMI input of the NAD M51...and go from there.... .
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Reply #42 - 09/20/13 at 18:07:35
 
It is great to hear your enthusiasm for these new pieces. Great fun! I am looking forwards to future developments!
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Reply #43 - 09/20/13 at 20:49:38
 
You bet Will.

The fall/winter with the 3 front ends will be fun.

I hope to place my order for the Mystery Amp by Nov 1st....with delivery February 1st or better.  It would be nice to wrap up the Winter enjoying and breaking that in.  Have a great weekend!   -S
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Reply #44 - 09/21/13 at 16:56:47
 
Maddog, I find with DACS, you need to live with them for a while, a few weeks, to really hear their differences and personality. Like anything else in audio, DAC are voiced by the designer. I hope you can hear the Anedio one day to compare and hear the difference for yourself. I am not saying it is better, just the most transparent DAC I have heard to date from any other DAC. In COMPARISON, the W4S is dark in my system. I am not alone in this, John Darko wrote a good review of the W4S. However, as you said, we each hear differently.
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Reply #45 - 09/21/13 at 18:04:51
 
impossible to hear every component that comes down the pike... even if you are retired & financially independent.  I am pleased that you are satisfied with the Anedio in your system.  Satisfaction is what its all about.
By a huge overwhelming margin, there are more rave reviews on the Wyred than there are less enthralled, poor or less favorable reviews.  So what!  What does this prove?  Nothing!  Building ones system based solely on somebody else's opinion of something is a recipe for discontent and empty pockets.  Last months, "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread review" will be old news and considered less than stellar by next month.  Reviewers preferences and hearing are as varied as ours... and they have vastly different motivations for their written opinions!

"live with them for awhile" - if once broken-in (if new) and warmed up and you still have to listen hard and carefully "for awhile" to hear differences... hmmm... one may be acclimating to the sound... humans do "adapt" - make no mistake.  And perhaps there just isn't that big of a difference if you have to listen "long and hard" to hear it - which was one of my points to begin with.  I try a lot of new, latest and greatest stuff out during the course of a year... most of the new & improved, is well...ugh, just "new".  So it goes back or is passed along to the next "seeker of truth"...

I have had my Dac-2 for about a year.  The others I currently have, I have had for 2 years or more.  I've had my Theta the longest and have been a "fan boy" of Theta every since they came on the scene in my locale in the late 80's.  An older Theta DAC will hold its own with anything made today on redbook CD sourced sound.  I don't expect anyone to take my word for it - just listen for yourself if you get a chance.

Also...our "age" comes into play.  If you're the age of 25, you can't hear 20khz anymore.  If you're over 50, one would be lucky to hear much above 10-12khz.  This means... that as we age... we tend to find sound that it is tilted up in the treble more to our liking simply because we can't hear "up there" very well anymore and a system that is tilted up in those frequency ranges will sound more detailed, more resolute, more clarity to one who's hearing is less than perfect at those frequencies.  And thus... our children, and younger "philes" tend to find sound that I find well "balanced" and to my liking to be "bright" and forward.
Always a good reality check to pull out the disc with the 1/3 octave test tones on it and your SPL meter and listen at least yearly.  Adjust to comfortably loud at 1khz, and then watch the meter and run the scale from 20hz up to 20khz... the meter will tell you what you should be hearing, your brain will tell if you ears can hear it anymore - assuming the given system can reproduce the frequencies.  I like to pull my 23 yr old daughter or teenage nephews and nieces into the room when doing this occasionally... they can clearly demonstrate the limits of my hearing to me...  ;D

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Reply #46 - 09/21/13 at 21:39:38
 
I wish I could attend, but I am geographically challenged. Western Canada.

I find that I am gradually increasing the treble on the Torii more and more. I think my V-Caps are still breaking in. Just around the 1000 hour mark now.

I have never heard a 'bad review' about the W4S, just preference comes into play. Have fun at Decfest.
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Reply #47 - 09/24/13 at 04:24:21
 
I take delivery on the D2 Thursday. They lowered the price! I am receiving a $222 credit off the $1470 I paid.  .....gotta like it!

This gives me a couple more nights on my M51. She is spreading her wings....with more time on her. I like the fact that NAD knew despite all the hi-rez capability....that includes HDMI input....they better make sure out of the box....plugged into Coax/SPDIF/RCA...(old School out of Transport) it better show it has something to stick around for (and burn/break it in)! IT does.

I do suspect that the Anedio D2 will be the same. It has USB, Coax & BNC....so I doubt I will be disappointed. I have BNC with my Alchemy gear.

The Mystery Amp just got posted up for PRE-ORDER. I am debating whether to order this Amp or a Pass Labs. Good problem to have...I think I will try the PASS first, because I have great sound with two of Steve's Amps....and need some muscle with the PASS when in the mood.     -Stone
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Reply #48 - 09/24/13 at 11:53:35
 
Really? Pass Labs? You didn't learn your lesson with the Prima Luna?  Just go Decware! Cheesy
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Reply #49 - 09/24/13 at 16:13:21
 
I know Lon, I should have my head examined!  ;D

With careful thought....I ordered a Simaudio MOON W5.3 SE Power Amplifier!
I should have it by Thursday or Friday. I will get the shipping details later today. I got it with a PS Audio 10 Power Cord too.

Anyway, I will be running my NAD M51 & Anedio D2 directly into this Behemoth... .

My SE84CS will always be used & the Super Zen CKC. However, I am going after some serious muscle in the Listening Room when I want it.

I do plan on ordering the Mystery Amp too (for serious muscle). I am going to let the early adopters "flesh it out" and I will order one in the Spring!  -Stone
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