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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #15 - 08/23/13 at 11:12:39
 
LS,

Here is what Steve sent in his email that is pertinent:



The LIST so far - Price Increases
OK -  Here's how it works.   Whenever we come out with a new product, those people on our build sheet with standing orders are automatically upgraded to the new model at the old model price.

I am obligated to charge what 's listed on the web site, so until I have time to update the site, you can buy these new more expensive models at the current prices.

We are now finishing the CSP3.  This new model will likely cost a few hundred bucks more.  You can order a CSP2+ from the site now, and lock yourself into the old price.  We are still running over 8 weeks, so you'll have plenty of time to discover the options it now comes with and modify your order if need be.  Remember, we don't charge until the units are ready to ship, so you have some time to arrange funds.

The TORII MK III is days away from becoming the TORII MK IV  and this is really big, because we've figured out how to make it sound even better if you can believe that!  The new amp will come standard with beeswax caps and there will be a significant price increase.  Get your TORII ordered now before I update the web site and save yourself a few hundred bucks minimum.

The Super Zen has been a great success, but became as good or better than the Zen Select, which was designed to be and upgraded version of the Regular Zen Triode.  So we have also updated that with meters, and many internal improvements so that it is indeed a step up from the SuperZen as it should be.  Again, if you want one, order the SE84ZS and you'll automatically be upgraded to the new model without the couple hundred dollar price increase!

The main thing is to get your orders in as soon as possible before I get the site pages updated.  This will secure your position in the list and lock you in at the old price.   I can answer questions about the changes and options by e-mail or phone once your order is placed.  We can easily tweak your order to achieve the configurations you want so no need to panic about options.  I'll work with each one of you individually.
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #16 - 08/23/13 at 14:02:58
 
Hi Lon,

Thanks.

I'll just "lock in" an order for the Torii Mk 3/4 and discuss the options later with Decware.

Now the long wait begins.....

Will likely pair up the amp with some new Zu speakers too. Smiley
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #17 - 08/23/13 at 14:49:31
 
Probably great sound.

I'm going to hang tight with the two Mk IIIs I have. . . or try to. Smiley
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #18 - 08/23/13 at 17:51:49
 
The beeswax caps will come standard on the new Torii MK IV so you do not have to check that box on the MK III order page.

Stepped attenuator(s) will be an option on the MK IV just like on the MK III, so if you want that, you'll have to check the box.

The difference in price between the stock MK III and the stock MK IV will probably be around five hundred bucks, so right now that's what you'll be getting free.



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Reply #19 - 08/23/13 at 18:40:23
 
Steve,  Many thanks for your continued work on the Torii series!  It's so nice to see a great amp being brought to an even higher level.

I just spoke with Sarah (happy birthday!) who talked to you about sending my Torrii III in, to be upgraded to the Torii IV.  I'll send it in Sept. 3, the day after Labor Day.

I look forward to the big upgrade!

Thanks again for your great work on Decware amps and speakers. Your equipment has made the quality of my life, much better.  

Mike

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Reply #20 - 08/24/13 at 01:20:46
 
Dear Steve,

Thanks for the clarification on ordering the Torii MK 3/4.

Hope you are much better now.

I was just listening to music on my CSP2+ (with Beyer T1) way way past midnight.
I just could not pry myself from the music.

If I were listening to the new improved CSP3, I might probably be put into a trance for the rest of my life! Smiley

Thanks for making such great audiophile pieces of art affordable to the "average joe" like me.

I look forward to the same if not greater musical bliss on external speakers.
I'd think I'll put the rest of my household into a musical trance when the Torii MK 4 arrives. Wink

Cheers!
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Reply #21 - 08/24/13 at 16:25:49
 
Lord Soth,  What Zu Audio speakers have you listened to and with which Decware Amps?  Please give your impressions. I recently bought a Taboo MK III and a pair of Audeze cans.  I ordered a pair of Zu "Souls" to pair with the Taboo plus the new CSP 3 ordered the day Steve sent his letter. I have to admit I am very close to ordering a Torii MK IV too.....what made you pull the trigger?  Thanks, Mark.
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Reply #22 - 08/24/13 at 22:26:34
 
So, Steve...How about a headphone jack option for the new MK IV?
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #23 - 08/24/13 at 23:46:07
 

Anyone know if Steve charges the credit card right away, or when the amp ships?

What's the wait time typically for these amps?

I'm trying to get a feel for how quickly I'd need to get the money up for one...the more I listen to my vintage Zen amp and MG944, the more I want a little something with more Oomph!

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Reply #24 - 08/25/13 at 00:08:01
 
LR...Check Lon's post above quoting Steve's email.

From Steve:

"We are still running over 8 weeks, so you'll have plenty of time to discover the options it now comes with and modify your order if need be.  Remember, we don't charge until the units are ready to ship, so you have some time to arrange funds."
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #25 - 08/25/13 at 01:14:57
 
This is great news! I'm definitely getting my III upgraded when available.  Anyone know how much the upgrade from III to IV would cost if you already have the jupiter cap upgrade?
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Reply #26 - 08/25/13 at 01:39:10
 
Neilwill,  Steve does not have a price yet on the upgrade.

I'll be sending my V-capped Mark III to Decware in a week or two, for the Mark IV upgrade, and I'll post as soon as I find anything on the cost.

Mike
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Re: New Torii MKIV
Reply #27 - 08/25/13 at 03:47:16
 
I don't know what the price or structure will be for the upgrade to a MK IV yet.  I still have to decide how much I want to change on a MK III.  I'll likely separate the mod into two or three parts.  That's all I know right now.
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Reply #28 - 08/25/13 at 04:05:08
 
Steve,  Thanks for the info!

Mike
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TESTING
Reply #29 - 08/25/13 at 04:17:37
 


TESTING THE MK IV

I couldn't wipe a dirty little grin off my face tonight as I walked out of the listening room while the Torii MK IV simply kicked the crap out of a MK III.  

Sadly this was not the case 24 hours ago after my second listen, (the first one fooled me).  There was an incredible magic that the MK III had never even grazed before and now it might have to go away!  There were issues with the bass and with it's usable power that would have killed it if not for spending all day in bed meditating on all the possible solutions.  The solutions worked and tonight was all about tuning the values to achieve the desired result.  Basically, solder, lift 40 lbs amp, hook up, play, unhook, lift, solder and repeat... 42 times so far.  Remember this is actual listening room testing, not initial tuning in the bench rails.

Anyway, when you hear this mod you'll understand that no other amplifier in the world could ever sound like it, and I was desperate not to let that go, despite being in taboo territory once again with the circuit design.  The experience was kind of like finding a chunk of gold in the ground that was too big to lift out.... too good to be true.

And since the MK III was getting bested by the Mystery Amp, this has the Mystery amp pretty nervous... well see what happens in the next amp wars.
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