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Reply #450 - 12/27/13 at 18:26:09
 

Steve, any chance that with this slight change of layout, you might be able to fit in an extra set of RCA inputs on a quality switch? Looks like we have people asking about multiple inputs without a preamp!

Or would all this require a new plate cut?
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Reply #451 - 12/27/13 at 19:15:22
 
Okay, I have my Anthony Gallo 3.1 Speakers locked in and my Kimber Select 3035 has some serious hours on it.....providing smooth organic music with my SE84CS (low moderate/SPL). I need the ZMA.    -S
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Reply #452 - 12/30/13 at 23:24:30
 
I just got my sweet order of 6N23P-EV's from Ron at Cryoset. I love my SE84CS & CKC. However, I am wanting the other bowl of cherries/sonic perspective with my ZMA!   -S
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Reply #453 - 12/31/13 at 00:04:56
 
Stone, have you tried the 23P in the Zen Amp yet?

I test all my input tubes on the Zen amp - it helps me really listen to and weed out the bad ones.

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Reply #454 - 12/31/13 at 16:13:02
 
I have not tested them yet. I will soon....this weekend. I am looking  forward to our ZMA's LR bumping up from parts pulled status...next week!   -S

PS-I read the SET Bashing thread....and I certainly appreciate everyone's path to Audio bliss and I learn a lot.

Look at our paths and our upcoming next chapter with the ZMA. I think it is great that you have Steve's Speaks & Wires...and I have conventional Speaks & my Kimber Select Wires....to offer our perspectives. After all, Steve designed the Zen Mystery Amplifier & Zen Mono Blocks to play very well with both Speaker Markets/Preferences.

PS-I need to add the Torii III & IV. ...just read the Creamy Martin Logan Thread.
http://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1386981742


....and their is a gentlemen running the Torii III or IV with JenZen's too.... .  He is driving the JenZen's with no problem via III (or IV)...found in: Reply #103 from Steve in this MA Thread.
(Well, I should say he was deciding on the III or should he get the MA...and Steve let him know the scene).
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Reply #455 - 12/31/13 at 19:11:04
 

Too bad you're so far away, I'd love to A/B those Kimber with my Styx.

Maybe I'll make a "spare pair" and send them your way to try out and get your thoughts on.

I've always been a big fan of Kimber, I just couldn't afford the sets of cable that I thought really sounded right.



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Reply #456 - 01/02/14 at 02:55:23
 
My ZMA is on the Build!    -S
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Reply #457 - 01/02/14 at 04:32:40
 

Awesome, Stone!

Hopefully mine isn't too far behind and we'll be able to compare notes.

I'm in Peoria next week for work, but the following week (probably when my amp will be done) I'm off for a couple days. Hopefully the timing will be right for me to swing by and pick it up from Steve rather than pay the extra for shipping, or wait an extra week till I'm in town for work again.

Or maybe just slip Steve a bottle of Scotch and suddenly I'm #1 on the list.   Wink
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Reply #458 - 01/02/14 at 06:02:30
 
Don't be messin' with my number one spot LR!  Haaaa!

You know, I did some research tonight on (and on many other occasions the last 2 decades +):
Audio Research...
VSi75
VSi60
VS115
REF75

Rogue Audio...
Zeus Power Amp
Stereo 100 Amp with KT120

Primaluna Dialogue Premium Integrated Amp
(this one looks like a Tinker Toy Set under the hood)

.....and I am just not impressed with the Topology, of this list of Amplifiers....doubling the Power with most of these Amps, over the ZMA, with their Topology and Negative Feedback for incremental 3db in SPL....just leads to: get a Solid State Amp....that is what they most resemble in design and sound (yes, I owned the Primaluna & have listened to the VSi60)!

It is clear to me how much more musical the Decware ZMA will be via Steve's design Topology.  

Establishment garb....makes me chuckle.  I can afford any one of these Amps in this list. I buy Decware.   -S
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Reply #459 - 01/02/14 at 13:36:07
 
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Establishment garb....makes me chuckle.  I can afford any one of these Amps in this list. I buy Decware.   -S


That's a good sign you (we) are on the right track!


I'm getting itchy for me amp at this point...I was ignoring the build list since Steve's last post, but now I'm getting exited again...I'm thinking I might have to rearrange the Home Theater/Listen Room front end and get better prepped for the ZMA's arrival.
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Reply #460 - 01/02/14 at 16:46:32
 
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.....and I am just not impressed with the Topology, of this list of Amplifiers....doubling the Power with most of these Amps, over the ZMA, with their Topology and Negative Feedback for incremental 3db in SPL....just leads to: get a Solid State Amp....that is what they most resemble in design and sound (yes, I owned the Primaluna & have listened to the VSi60)!


This is also my take when I have looked at the usual alternatives.  I look at their specs and see how they have accomplished the product.  I just don't see any compelling evidence that their design warrants the compromise in sound.  I'll take quality over power every day even though I have also jumped in line for a ZMA.  I feel I will someday be happy I opted for the slightly extra oomph that the ZMA has over the Torii.  The timing was right to make the move now rather than sometime in the future when the price delta will likely be wider.  
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Reply #461 - 01/02/14 at 16:59:07
 

Seriously, the ZMA could have been 16 watts and I would have still bought it. I really don't *need* 40 watts, I just need the grunt and harmonics this amp has...the extra headroom is just icing.
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Reply #462 - 01/03/14 at 14:11:18
 

Just checked the build list out of curiosity this morning, and I see all the ZMA after our first two are listed as Winding Transformers.

I'm Guessing either Steve made a change to the design, or simply ran out.

I wonder what kind of delay this will cause, if any. The parts might be ready to go by the time the first two are done...

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Reply #463 - 01/03/14 at 18:35:46
 
jsm71, succinctly well put.

LR, I wish I was at Decware the rest of this month. How exciting it must be for Steve and the Team to now be building the ZMA in the new year! It is looking good...and it won't be long.  -S
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Reply #464 - 01/03/14 at 19:56:32
 
I guess we're getting soft up here in MN. The Gov' closed schools state wide for Monday. Anyway, great weekend for Playoff Football & Music!
The Green Bay game ought to be a Treat of cold Weather.   -S

....all I want is 70 to 75 degree's in Vegas, the last week of February?
Is that asking to much?!
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