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Reply #180 - 10/15/13 at 16:09:38
 
Oh, I am aware of your awesome collection Lon. We have been conversing on this forum with each other for 12+ years. Imagine if they kept the original post count when Steve switched over the Forum to new?.........you would be in the stratosphere!  

I agree, I might upgrade my Vinyl. However, it does make me turn my head sometimes with my current Rig....James Taylor's....Daddy Loves his Work...straight through...both sides.....this morning....wonderful.

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Reply #181 - 10/15/13 at 16:16:14
 
Yes, it's been that long. I deleted my whole profile one time (not sure if it was on purpose or by accident) and I would have thousands more even if I hadn't.

I post too much. Wish I could stop. Smiley
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Reply #182 - 10/15/13 at 18:40:32
 
Nope, never stop Lon. I appreciate your insights.
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Reply #183 - 10/15/13 at 19:39:27
 
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Yes LR! Herbie's Halo's are excellent.

I use a pair of Herbie's on my coveted Svetlana SV83 Tubes on my SE84CS.
I also, have a 5 pound brass weight on the Transformer. System is configured on floor (finished basement) as is my Pro-ject Debut Carbon Turntable out in the Living Room He-Man rig (slightly elevated on top of two old Denon CD Changers).
...Back to the Listening Room, my Digital resides on Townsend Seismic Sink Pneumatic. Isolation is Key.    -S



I do indeed need to work on isolation. I just hear so much BS about what works. I'd really like to setup some sort of micro seismometer on my amp and/or Oppo Disc player and *document* what's really happening. But I see all this stuff I'm skeptical of, like putting crystals and  maple wood blocks and brass weights (vs lead or something else) and supposedly these things *enhance* only the positive aspects of the music... color me super skeptical. So for starters, I just want to do real isolation with good stands/bases etc. I'm just having trouble finding something DIY or reasonably priced.

Stone, what Halo's do you recommend I try? The expensive Titanium ones don't seem like they'd work well. The guitar ones are priced well, but it has me curious if the other models would make a difference. I may have to get a set of the titanium ones, try them out, then send them back if I don't feel they make a noticeable or positive difference.

Tube damping makes sense, but again, too much snake oil out there muddying the waters.
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Reply #184 - 10/15/13 at 21:28:58
 
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Nope, never stop Lon. I appreciate your insights.


+1 - it wouldn't be the same here without your insights!
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Reply #185 - 10/15/13 at 22:24:26
 
Thanks Gents. Probably couldn't stop if I tried. Smiley

Listening to the new Garcia release, Live Volume 3, "Legion of Mary 1974," great stuff.
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Reply #186 - 10/18/13 at 02:12:51
 

So...who else it checking the web page and forums a couple times a day hoping Steve has chimed in on the Mallories and/or updated the Amps pages?
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Reply #187 - 10/18/13 at 03:23:36
 
The red caps are N.O.S. caps made in the USA.  They give the amp more bass weight and a slightly better "hit".   These are obsolete caps.  The closest thing available is this:



http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cornell-Dubilier/CGH272T500X4C/?qs=sGAEpiMZZ...

The red ones I have weigh over a pound more despite being the same physical size...

Anyway I plan to make my stash of red caps an option until my supply is gone.  I think I have enough for 25 amps.  The first five Mystery Amps built will come with these caps as my gift for being the first five people to own one.



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Reply #188 - 10/18/13 at 03:28:48
 

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The first five Mystery Amps built will come with these caps as my gift for being the first five people to own one.



Oh please let me have been smart enough/soon enough to be in that first five!!   Cheesy
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Reply #189 - 10/18/13 at 03:42:07
 
I'm new here and just read the whole thread. Gotta say very impressive.

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Reply #190 - 10/18/13 at 14:49:00
 

Welcome Mark!

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After hearing what this amp does with 24 bit 384kHz PCM files as well as SACD 2.8mhZ and 5.6Mhz files I am spoiled for life. My entire CD collection is now officially garbage and will never pollute these ears again. Thank God I lived long enough to see digital playback finally sound good enough to compete with vinyl... it gives me great hope for the future of audio.


I keep coming back to this quote from Steve - the technology is here, my concern is that I'm seeing many recordings put out that are upsampled crap, or compressed to death. I really hope they start going back to those original master recordings and pulling every bit of detail out of them at no compromise sample rates. I don't mind if I'm listening to Hendrix and I hear the limitations of a 1960's 4 track tape...I want to hear it as Hendrix heard it! (and I'm not about to jump into Vinyl at this stage).

Part of the reason I put in my order for the Mystery amp, besides the fact that I truly felt it was superior to the MK IV - even on CD, is that I plan on having this amp for a long, long time - well into the era of high bitrate, high samplerate HD music. I've had my Zen amp for 15 years, and I play the snot out of it. Just about every day I fire it up, something special happens with the music - I'm looking forward to that with the Mystery amp for a another 15-20 years.  ;)

Steve, technical question on the caps. Coming from the guitar amp world, I've had to replace many, many electrolytic caps over the years in my amps. What's the expected lifespan of these big Mallory cans you're putting into the amps? I know with guitar amps they recommend replacing the caps every 10 years because they dry out and start allowing noise to come through. So I'm concerned about not having replacement caps of this quality in the future.
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Reply #191 - 10/18/13 at 15:12:01
 
Welcome as well Mark.

LR, I have been checking for Steve's reply too! I hope I made the cut as well for the Red Mallory's.

Sarah called me yesterday and left a message about the DM945 with the new passive bass stands.  I then went and Listened to them and all the other Speakers last night via the Thread from the Fest Steve sent out.  Thanks for those great comprehensive Threads Steve-wow. Now, I want the NEW ERR instead. First things first. I look forward to my Mystery Amp and what it can do with my Stable of Speakers. Then, the new ERR's need to come in. I might augment them with my HSU MBM 12. I purposely, underutilize this device in my Living Room....where it is sublime. I think the ERR Omni's would thrive out here in the Living Room with it via MA or CKC!

LR, I am with you.....the MA stays for life...and I will work my alchemy to squeeze every last drop out of it for years to come.  My SE84CS & CKC will never leave me either.  Hi-rez, redbook CD.....and Vinyl improvements I will make....will be worth the efforts with these three fine maker's of music I will own.  -S

PS LR, ditto on your Zen Amp. I have owned my SE84CS new, for 12.5 years.  I listen to it, nearly every day. It is so Special...I will not change a thing in it!  I needed/wanted the CKC on its own...for its magic. No one touches my CSelect from 2001.  
Good question from your tech background about the Caps.

PS-I loved hearing the DM945 with the new passive bass stands. But, I think I am falling for the Radial Sound. Plus, I have all front firing in my Stable...time for way less room dependence...with the Omni's.  
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Reply #192 - 10/18/13 at 15:17:06
 
Oh boy.  I just pulled the trigger as well.  has that been 5 amps yet?

I just heard and felt this big sucking sound from behind me.  oh, that was my wallet.  But I'm smiling.
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Reply #193 - 10/18/13 at 15:20:21
 
hehe SteveC, this will be 3 for me. ....might turn into 4 next fall with the Mk IV.   I blame Lon for all this  ;D.  -S
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Reply #194 - 10/18/13 at 15:35:12
 
LR, about your skepticism for tweaks.  You should have these concerns.

You are creating a dedicated room for one of your Systems with Acoustic Room Treatments....so that is the place to start.

Me? Powercord, Herbie's Halo's for size of tube, digital isolation, system configured on carpet-on Wood shelves-flat to floor/concrete floor. TripLite equivalent for power isolation, weight on Power Transformer (read: Isolation)....and of course Room Treatment....all make a difference to hear the SE84CS's full potential.
I also use a product from XLO....called TPC...it is a cleaner for all connections...it comes in a sealed package in the form of a wipe...that makes The Perfect Connection.  Also, check your driver's/tighten the screws...they loosen up over the years.
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