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Ron

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Power Recommendations
01/06/13 at 23:13:10

So I have upgraded my receptacle to a hospital grade outlet.
From there I want to place some line conditioner of some sorts.

Should I get something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006HPHN/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&smid=A...

or like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AYDQB6/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=A...

This is the price that I want to start at, the PS Power Plant is too rich for my blood right now.

Thanks in advance!

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Palomino Senior Member Posts: 80	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #1 - 01/08/13 at 17:59:38 I can't say what's better, but I believe that Steve uses the 1,000 watt version of #1 in his listening room. I just purchased the 250 watt version of #1 to try out. I'd also recommend a good power cord if you haven't got one yet.
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Ron Senior Member Posts: 79	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #2 - 01/08/13 at 18:48:37 The isolation transformer is recommended by Steve, I will start there. I see more benefit from the isolation transformer than a line conditioner if I understand both properly. Thanks for the input!
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Palomino

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Re: Power Recommendations
Reply #3 - 01/08/13 at 18:51:37

Here is an excerpt of Steve's response to me. I went with the lower wattage unit because of cost, Steve's comment about vibration and it also looked like 250 watts was more than enough to cover my equipment.

"The smaller models are desirable as they make less vibration. The numbers represent wattage. A small zen triode amplifier draws 80 watts from the outlet. Our larger Zen Torii draws 130 watts. The SE34 draws 90 watts."

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Ron Senior Member Posts: 79	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #4 - 01/08/13 at 18:59:03 Right on, thanks!
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Mark Seasoned Member Posts: 172	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #5 - 01/08/13 at 23:23:16 Here ya go: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321051641304?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m... http://www.avtoybox.com/is-250.html Best prices I could find on the 250 W models... (m.) Note: No affiliation
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Palomino Senior Member Posts: 80	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #6 - 01/09/13 at 04:01:45 That is a good price. Better than I found when I bought.
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Palomino

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Re: Power Recommendations
Reply #7 - 01/16/13 at 14:27:53

I previously had built a separate power strip using good quality outlets, power cord and plugs and now I have all my components on the isolation transformer. This provided improvements in imaging and bass. Then just for fun I made a power cord using 10 AWG silver plated copper that my wife braided for me and some wattgate plugs I stole off another DIY power cord. Its still early, but the bass is definitely deeper and has a lot more slam.

I am a big believer in getting the power right. Keep in mind I am still running SS while I wait for my SE34, but I expect these gains to carry over to the tube amp.

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Mark Seasoned Member Posts: 172	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #8 - 01/17/13 at 01:30:19 Well, I also just purchased the #1 version from above... We'll have to see if it improves the sound... I'll report on this later... (m.) added: The 250 watt version
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stone_of_tone

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Re: Power Recommendations
Reply #9 - 01/17/13 at 15:12:10

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=adcom+ac+enhancer+ace-515&qpvt=adcom+ac+enha...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adcom-ACE-515-AC-enhancer-/360342964517

http://www.users.interport.net/a/d/adcom/ace515.html

http://new.audiogon.com/listings/327322

If you can find one of these....they are a gem & 1/2. Switching turn on and can handle up to 750 watts. It's an Isolation Transformer with more features and power handling and they do turn up on Audiogon and the Bay in great shape. I've owned one brand new since the stone age...and of course, works like the day it was new. -Stone

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Lon

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Re: Power Recommendations
Reply #10 - 01/17/13 at 17:18:31

I didn't have very good luck with the Tripplite isolation transformers, introduced an "edge" to the sound. (Though it took me ages to really identify the edginess; actually Radcha noticing the same thing led me to isolate the sound). I went with PS Audio power products and have been very happy.

(Still no computer, using a friend's briefly, hope all are enjoying great sound!)

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Mark Seasoned Member Posts: 172	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #11 - 01/18/13 at 17:46:04 Lon, at 85 bucks net [eBay], I'm going to give it a try... I don't think I need a larger one for my needs right now... If I hear that 'steely' sound of which you speak, I'll take it out straight away... (m.)
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. D*ck Posts: 5233	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #12 - 01/18/13 at 18:02:09 Cool. Hope you never hear it.
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Mark

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Re: Power Recommendations
Reply #13 - 01/20/13 at 01:27:15

Uncle Lon, I got the unit, and I seem to be hearing the same thing you did... I mean, straight away... I mean, it's a clear sound, and quiet... But it has a certain edginess/thinness to it...

I'm glad I didn't spend too much... I'm going to keep it on-line for awhile, just to make sure, but it seems as though you're right about this unit... Oh, the trials and tribulations of audio!... (m.)

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Palomino Senior Member Posts: 80	Re: Power Recommendations Reply #14 - 01/23/13 at 19:14:29 Any more detail you can provide on this edginess? Is it the initial attack of the note ragged? I am not experiencing this to my ears. If anything the unit smoothed out the edges and improved the sound stage. Maybe I am not listening close enough or my system is not yet resolving enough.
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