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11/05/12 at 19:38:38
 
Hello there,

As this is my first time, let me just take the chance to say hi and introduce myself, I am Luis, from Spain, a more than happy owner of a SE341.2, ZDC and ERRs (does anyone remember his life before Decware... Smiley???)

Two years have passed already and now I was thinking about the possibility of increasing my decware family adding the CSP2+, for this I will kindly ask for your opinion, does anyone know this combination? any feed back about how it could sound? I am not looking for more volume, but for more overall improvement... if possible...

I have already asked Steve about this, but in the meantime it would be great to know about your impressions.

Thanks everybody in advance!!

Luis

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Reply #1 - 11/05/12 at 20:35:03
 
Luis, Welcome! Glad to see you here.

I used to own the .2 and still have the CSP2 I used to pair it with at times. It will make a change to the sound of the Integrated. You'll notice a "thickening" in a sense, the bass will have a bit more weight and the high end can get a bit sweeter. There's a lot of adjustment of the gain and you can tailor the sound a bit that way. Also if you have any balance issues left to right, these can be corrected. And if you like to listen via headphones I think the CSP2 can be a great headphone amp (I don't listen to headphones and asked Steve to build one without a headphone jack.)
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Reply #2 - 11/05/12 at 21:30:49
 
Hey Lon,

Thanks a lot for your answer, you know what? reading your posts made me think about the possibility of getting the CSP2, I saw you really enjoy it with the Torii and that made me wonder how it could be with the .2

I will not use it with headphones either, I will just keep on going with the ERRs!!
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Reply #3 - 11/05/12 at 21:36:34
 
I love the ERRs too. . . they're like headphones for a giant head! Smiley

Yes, I use my old CSP2 in the bedroom system and I have a new one in my main system, a CSP2+. I got this one with the stepped attenuator option. And I think that it's worth the extra dollars, there seems to be an openness to the sound that I suspect comes from this option. Worth considering! I really love this one, it keeps sounding better week by week!
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Reply #4 - 03/22/13 at 19:08:58
 
Hey, I just wanted to share that I have just made up my mind (took me a while...) and this week I have ordered it!!!!
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Reply #5 - 05/29/13 at 19:10:40
 
It´s here!!!!   Cheesy  :D
I have just plugged it, I know is too soon, I know I should wait... but I cann´t help it... I have a big smile in my face!!!!!!
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Reply #6 - 05/29/13 at 19:19:07
 
Maybe somebody knows... reading the CSP2 manual I thought it would come with a 5Y3GT but it comes with a 5U4G, just wondering... and still smiling!!!!!
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Reply #7 - 05/30/13 at 01:16:01
 
From the CSP2+ page:

TUBES

The CSP2+ comes with the very highest grade 6N1P's which tend to be the warmest sounding and are long life tubes.  You can however use 6922's or 6DJ8's as direct plug-in replacements if you enjoy a little tube rolling.  The CSP2+ usually ships with the a 5U4 rectifier tube, but you can also use 5Y3GT or 5AR4.  The amp is self-biasing so no adjustments are needed for the life of the unit.
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Reply #8 - 06/01/13 at 16:37:38
 
Hi Lin, yes, you are right, thanks!

Maybe this changed from CSP2 to CSP2+
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Reply #9 - 06/01/13 at 17:06:26
 
You know, it's quite possible, as my CSP2 shipped with  5Y3GT. I do prefer the 5Y3GT in the CSP2+ though to a 5U4 tube, just seems to work best in my system.
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Reply #10 - 06/01/13 at 21:46:51
 
Lon........so I took out the well regarded Philips 5r4gy and popped  my Philips 5y3gt into the CSP2+ and a nice change occured. More punchy tighter bass and and some metallic shimmer to guitars where applicable.
No loss to soundstage. Seems like a bit more projection as well.
Took the trusty RCA 5r4gy out of the ZP3 and put the Philips 5r4gy in. Added a bit more air. Think I prefer the RCA but will give it a run to see.
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Reply #11 - 06/01/13 at 22:33:21
 
Cool. Sometimes tube rolling can be fun. For me, sometimes. I'm not into it all the time, like it set and forgotten.
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Reply #12 - 06/02/13 at 07:59:20
 
I´ll give a try to the RCA 5Y3GT and see what happens.
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