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jameskk
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how good is a se84c+
06/30/12 at 12:38:54
 
Ok your going to love this one . I have a number of decware amps , a toriimkiii, 2  zen selects a black one and a white one, and a zen se84c+. I have a small room 9x13 . oh and until yesterday a TS mini beast ,(had to find out what OTL was all about). Well I find myself going back to the se84c+ constantly. using the zcd200i exclusively. in the case of the torii, I think its just too big sounding for the room . Im using the most revealing speakers I could build for the buck. common sense  super 8's in 2.8 cabinets . Read though the decware 8's are the way to go. (Will the deware 8's have same bolt holes as common sense super 8's???) Anyway since my se84c+ was in a fire  that destroyed my house almost a year ago, and sounds so great . i think I'll be purchasing another one . Chassis got beat up by the fire....... but not the sound!!!!!!!
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Re: how good is a se84c+
Reply #1 - 06/30/12 at 13:27:52
 
Odd that you would prefer the ZEN over the SELECT.
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Reply #2 - 07/02/12 at 23:48:53
 
Riverranch its an 018sn white select that was at decware for a going over . the zen is , or was brand new 1054sn just months before the fire . is a select that much better than the zen? or supposed to be . I bought the white select used . should not matter,its the newer model . ???????????
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Reply #3 - 07/02/12 at 23:50:19
 
both have stock tubes.......
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Reply #4 - 07/03/12 at 02:36:28
 
I hope to audition a ZEN, a SELECT and the ZEN MONOBLOCKS one day. It is basically the same ZEN circuit, with the SELECT being slightly modified and the MONOBLOCKS representing the end point of the ZEN design, with tube regulation.
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Reply #5 - 07/03/12 at 16:16:31
 
yes me too with the monoblocks. hope to make decfest this year. its like the common sense audio drivers , i have the super 8's ,are the super 8's alnico three times better than the regular super 8's , well they are three times the price. don't think so!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #6 - 07/04/12 at 03:14:24
 
riverranch do you use the csp2+ with your taboo,all the time
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Re: how good is a se84c+
Reply #7 - 07/05/12 at 22:20:45
 
"are the super 8's alnico three times better than the regular super 8's"

The Alnico Super 15 are certainly much "better" than the ceramic version. Two and half times better? I'm not sure.... But big difference (especially in the bass) none the less.
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Reply #8 - 07/05/12 at 22:50:57
 
The TABOO is out of rotation right now. I did use it extensively with the CSP2 preamp.
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Reply #9 - 07/07/12 at 13:16:09
 
to Kevin ,what cainets do you have them in? and the bass is better. well i dont doubt that. I've had super cast 10 in 2.8 for awhile and was thrilled with them until I put super8's in 2.8s....... and of course the zen in its various forms makes it all happen.
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Reply #10 - 07/07/12 at 13:38:10
 
Riverranch so your telling me the taboo is outdone by the mini torii..... maybe the taboo can be converted to a select , since your not using it. i have my select in the system now and . i may retract my thought on going  back to the regular zen . dont know what Steves thoughts are on this .  I say its  a compromise once again. probably the taboo is just a matter of changing it to triode.  have you heard a zen in your system ?may not have the power you need but man it maybe more magical than anything out there. being 58 years old may be wearing on my ears . but these amps are veeeery special.
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Reply #11 - 07/29/12 at 08:34:03
 
Just wanted to add that after buying and selling a lot of amps over the years, for the first time I have NO desire whatsoever for another amp anymore since the first SE84C came into my install.
I've changed the inputcaps with V-vaps and placed the inputs to the front-top, eliminating the pot plus inner wire....magic.
Recently I could buy another one, so now I'm running them as monos and for me it's the simply the icing on the cake.
Super natural sound and even more lively than with one Zen, just can't sit still with rythmic music playing...
So how good is a SE84C...? VERY GOOD SIR !
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Reply #12 - 07/29/12 at 18:07:26
 
I have no reason to convert my TABOO to a ZEN SELECT. I doubt it could be economically done.  More than that, my TABOO has V-caps, which make the unit sound "sweet." It also has a headphone modification with a speaker cutoff switch, which allows it to be used solely as a head amp.
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Re: how good is a se84c+
Reply #13 - 07/29/12 at 18:23:31
 
So, Rivieraranch, how does it compare (SE84C+) with your Mini Torii?
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Reply #14 - 07/29/12 at 20:26:18
 
Each amp has a "hook." I think the MINI TORII's hook is the black backgrounds, high gain, extreme tube versatility and treble control. The ZEN SE84C+ has the hook of the insane imaging and holographic presentation. However, there is not as much you can do with it. I would not want to divest of either of these amps.

You can drive a ZEN into distortion and enjoy it; however, the MINI TORII would be too loud before it distorts to ever try that.
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