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Fireblade

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A.L.Tennyson

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Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon!
Reply #45 - 01/31/12 at 00:40:54

Of course, there's always a small percentage of cases where there's really much interference going on ... but then one pays the price with higher capacitance due to the shielding, or at least that's the contention..

Talking about variables, today I discovered another positive tweak: Replaced my KM Player with Foobar2000, and it tangibly improves the overall presentation. Sharp edges are out, midrange is rounder and as detailed, performers are not so much 'on your face' with voices coming through sounding much more natural.

This is just the SW that plays back the FLAC or WAV files through the USB/DAC. This proves my USB/DAC is not that bad, after all. Unfortunately, Foobar does not support Ape format, so I still need the KM Player (which is a second best now) for those, until I swap my music collection to WAV format.

Like in a Christmas tree, one more shiny glass ball to hang!

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Fireblade Seasoned Member Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers. A.L.Tennyson Posts: 630	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #46 - 01/31/12 at 01:22:55 Correction: Just added a Foobar2000 plug-in to enable Ape files also. It's working!
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markv

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Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon!
Reply #47 - 01/31/12 at 17:07:12

Trying to imagine the new design...

Maybe white high gloss powder coat finish and wood base options like the rest of the amps. Also, with a larger size maybe the depth will increase to accomodate multiple inputs and some high-end jacks to run along the back end - verticle connections!

Steve, how about preview for the forum members? Promise we won't show anyone else.

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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 282	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #48 - 01/31/12 at 19:26:13 Me too on trying to imagine it? I am so digging my Torii 3 now and I have loved the SE84CS coming up on 11 years now.... . I am just going to order it when Steve posts it. Rotate the Amps as I see fit. I am glad I'm going to drive my paid for vehicle for two more years so I can top out my Audio needs........ .
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mac5u Seasoned Member Posts: 100	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #49 - 02/02/12 at 00:50:43 Earlier posts reference tube regulation and tube rectification. What is tube regulation? What is tube rectification? Why is it desirable to have one (or both?) as part of an amp's design? Thanks.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. D*ck Posts: 5268	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #50 - 02/02/12 at 01:16:56 There's some information here in the designer's notes to the Torii Mk II: http://www.decware.com/paper68.htm#TUBE%20RECTIFICATION May not answer all your questions, but it might help.
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Rivieraranch Seasoned Member Posts: 1125	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #51 - 02/02/12 at 03:01:02 Somebody should photoshop what the new unit should look like.
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markv

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Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon!
Reply #52 - 02/04/12 at 02:15:43

I've been thinking of upgrading my current system, Adcom GFA-555 amp, Adcom GFP-555 pre-amp and KEF Model 103/3 (4ohm) speakers with KEF Cube, for a few years. I have the matching Adcom CD player and Tuner. Anyways, I really like the system (had it for 25 years), but have the upgrade bug! I have been looking at the SE34I.2 and waiting for details on the SE34i.3.

My question is - I like my KEF speakers (92db sensitivity) and would like to keep them for now - but the KEF cube plugs into signal processor inputs on the Adcom pre-amp, using 2 rights & 2 lefts. If I were to purchase the SE34I.x would it still be possible to use the KEF cube with the KEF speakers?

Per a Audio Ideas review from back in 1987:

"The KEF 103/3 speakers are a 3 way system with a dome tweeter and 6" midrange on the front and a 8" woofer facing down - all on a dedicated stand. The KEF cube eliminates crossover inefficiency losses allowing for extended bass response. The normal speaker measurements are 50hz - 20kHz. The KEF cube allows you to vary the frequency range below 160Hz by about 3 DB." (though their tests showed a closer to 6 DB with the cube extented button activated).

Anyone on the forum have experience with these KEF speakers and KEF cube using Decware amps?

Thanks

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ski bum

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Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon!
Reply #53 - 02/05/12 at 18:44:43

Markv-

While the Decware amp would sound very sweet within it's limits, the low sensitivity of the KEFs will enforce those limits at fairly low levels. A Torii III would be more appropriate with the KEFs.

If you want to explore the more purist lower power offerings you'll get better results by stepping up to speakers that take full advantage of the first couple watts.

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Rivieraranch Seasoned Member Posts: 1125	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #54 - 02/06/12 at 01:26:35 The crossovers in the KEF might rob the amp of a lot of power. The 92 decibel rating might not mean that much after the crossovers take their toll. Is there any possibility that you would ever consider trying something with higher efficiency?
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markv Verified Member Posts: 47	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #55 - 02/06/12 at 02:21:28 Ski Bum and RR - Thanks for your replies. Well it was just some wishful thinking on keeping the KEFs. Also, been looking at the MG944 and at the Hoyt-Bedford Model 2s as more efficient "modern" options. Probably will hand down the entire Adcom/Kef system to my son - keep in the family! This upgrade itch can drive you crazy!
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Rivieraranch Seasoned Member Posts: 1125	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #56 - 02/06/12 at 03:09:20 I can endorse the MG944's wholeheartedly. That Integrated would drive them to insane levels of volume, and lead to a completely life-like musical reproduction.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 282	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #57 - 02/07/12 at 19:25:39 Come on Steve.....throw us a bone. One prelim' Pic? 8-)
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markv Verified Member Posts: 47	Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon! Reply #58 - 02/07/12 at 19:42:45 Stone - I agree with you. I keep checking the "New" link on the main menu and the "Hi-Res" link on the SE34i.2 product page thinking Steve has placed a picture of the SE34i.3 there.
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stone_of_tone

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Re: NEW SE34I.3 coming soon!
Reply #59 - 02/07/12 at 23:42:18

We might just have to wait until March..... . Now that I have discerned the differences and similarities of my SE84CS and my Torii 3.....I can't part with either Amplifier. I mentioned in another thread that I am content with switching Amps on a 3, 5 or 7 week basis as the Spirit moves me.

This .3 with EL34's in Triode with Lucid mode..... . I remember hearing the Pentode in Pentode Taboo in Lucid at the Fest in 2005. It made me regret not being part of the beta test Steve sent out on the road with the Taboo (EL84 SV83 based), because it sounded very very good. Steve, the quiet genius that he is, is not one to make idle boasts. If he says the .3 might be the best EL34 based Triode for imaging ever.....I tend to believe him.

Well, here's to maybe catching a glimpse prior to March..... .

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