Please don't think for a second that I am putting anyone or anything down.  Far from it.  I kid my buddy Curtis, some of you met him at the last Zenfest, that his CJ amp, an EL-34 @ about 40-50 wpc should be used as a boat anchor!  He loves it and that's what counts.

Lon,  I guess about say 15 wpc in a pp mini-Tori would be nice.  Your radials would love them, and tubes would be extremely long lived.  These days a lot of speakers could be driven quite nicely by such an amp.  There are too few amps in that category.  As Far as I know, only Ken Shindo has built a production 6L6 pp audiophile worthy amp. As Steve Deckert is a smart guy, I would love to see a mini-torii move to the next level of power.  Just something for my wish list.  

Not sure my ERRs would really love that amp, they seem to want more power than that in this big living-room/dining room. But maybe. It would also depend on the source and whether you want to add a preamp with lots of gain like the CSP2, which I go back and forth on (don't need it now with my current transport/DAC set up). I'm set now though, not wanting to try another amp, I like to hang on to these rare periods when I'm really happy with my system. For some reason the Mini-Torii has never really appealed to me, perhaps it was because it seemed an open invitation to exuberant tube-rolling, and when that amp came out I had just somehow managed to get myself un-crazy for and from tube-rolling.  :)  Still, I can see that is possibly a gap that could be filled in the line, a 12 to 15 watt amp, but in my experience the Integrated covers a certain type of speaker up to a certain point, and after that the Torii is enough or more than enough. . . Wonder what the price point would be and whether that would be a factor. Anyway, it would be interesting to hear what Steve might think.

Lon, your radials are an excellent speaker.  So much depends on the source for signal and how well the signal is buffered. My experience with radials & other omni speakers is that because they don't beam like conventional boxes, spl levels initially appear a bit lower, even though when you measure them from a dozen feet away they match.

FWIW I did find a similar amp to the mini-torii in a push pull class A version.  They only got about 9 WPC.  The amp lacks the regulation level that the Decware amp employs.  Tight regulation is critical to the mini-torii's sound.  So that other amp is a no go. Perhaps a Citation style a/ab amp with full regulation would be the ticket.  I suppose if I want it I will have to build it. Building a 100 DB speaker to get the spl I want would be easier.  I've already drawn plans for that. Decisions decisions.

Steve

Rivieraranch,

LOL.  What a great way of saying that.  C'mon Steve, how about a midi-torri?

Steve

Lin,

I realize that the concept of an AB class push pull amp is really not a normal Decware design theme.  (Though a well regulated one would be really nice.)  So I withdraw my request.  

At the last Zenfest, Steve told me that one of their mini-torii mock ups was a push pull design. He said it sounded pretty good.  

Steve

George Wright made an under appreciated push pull 2A3 mono blocks.   I also heard a  Deja Vu audio stereo 2A3 PP that really did well on a pair of Spendors.   I know that this is all stuff done before and suspect they would not stand up to my Torii on my very efficient speakers.