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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #60 - 07/12/11 at 16:23:25
 
Wow, can you schedule turning the Torii off too every five hours? Pretty cool. Good idea!
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Reply #61 - 07/12/11 at 16:56:28
 
Yeah, seems like the ▒ 5hr heat up-cool down cycles are a big deal for settling caps.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #62 - 07/12/11 at 17:15:20
 
Turning the amp on and off on 5 hour cycles is not too difficult, but I do have a question: how significant is amplifier volume during the break-in process?
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Reply #63 - 07/12/11 at 18:45:17
 
I don't really know, but it seems logical to flex the gear similarly to how we would be using it if we were in the room listening. So if your amp is hooked to resistors or to speakers seems like varying the volume levels as we would while listening makes sense???
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #64 - 07/12/11 at 19:11:45
 
Agreed. Seems logical, especially for the caps. I know when I received my Liquid Fire, the designer recommended another 150 hours of break-in, over and above the 50 they did before shipping, and he supplied a dummy load, and recommended that the volume be turned 3/4 up.
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Reply #65 - 07/12/11 at 19:26:45
 
The 3/4 thing makes some sense too I suppose...pushing the current through everything hard. Or maybe use a big push as part of the equation with more normal levels interspersed...

It would be interesting to get Steve's take on this. Called him lately?
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #66 - 07/12/11 at 20:00:29
 
Have not, but would like to get his take.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #67 - 07/13/11 at 00:36:58
 
I got my Nationals today and popped them in after work.

First impression:  delicious! I don't normally enjoy tubes immediately, but without burn in this is more up my alley. Thunderous bass is back as is a little moisture--this amp has such palpable images...  just solid and holographic.

Very impressive.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #68 - 07/13/11 at 00:41:15
 
Great to hear Gopher! áI am putting the same tube in my Ultra, and will swap between them and the Ediswans in my Toriis.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #69 - 07/13/11 at 01:41:26
 
Happy day!

Since it is so good now, it will be interesting to hear your thoughts with more push from the coming VRs.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #70 - 07/13/11 at 19:37:03
 
Gopher,

Now that you've got the Nationals installed, how do you think the TORII compares with the Shindo gear?
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #71 - 07/13/11 at 21:47:52
 
Kind of a difficult question as my only Shindo experience was with a preamplifier rather than a power amp.  I can say the Shindo gear has some of the most beautiful tone I've heard with very lifelike dynamics and just a natural, intrinsically musical sound.

The Torii's sound is very masculine by comparison.  Really palpable images with supreme texture and BALLS for days.  It makes some really great bass with my Zu speakers that I didn't know they could produce and its dynamic characteristic is almost larger than life.  For grins I found myself listening to hip hop last night and the Torii obliged.

The Auregies-L preamplifier I had has a 5000ohm output impedance.  Would that be a horrible match for the Torii?  I'm thinking to mate their virtues and put a Shindo in front of the Torii (with slightly more room treatments) might be my audio nirvana.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #72 - 07/13/11 at 22:26:47
 
Gopher,

Thanks for the feedback.

On your preamp question see:

http://www.decware.com/paper55.htm

A 5Kohms output into a 100K input should work, but based on your
source output voltage, do you need the extra gain from the preamp?
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #73 - 07/14/11 at 00:47:17
 
Now I really regret selling it before receiving my torii!  My sources have adequate gain, that shouldn't be an issue at all.
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Re: Which input tube for a splash of seduction?
Reply #74 - 07/14/11 at 07:37:47
 
Seller's regret, a subject that lots of us long time Audiophiles have had to deal with.

I remember when my hand made Futterman mono amps went out the front door, but it seems that Decware has given us a second chance at
sonic salvation.

My TORII was shipped today. A showdown against my KWA 100SE and a pair of $70K monos awaits. Cool
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