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kana813 Ex Member	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #30 - 06/19/11 at 03:25:08 PR, I admire your commitment. Hopefully, we'll both get our amps this month.
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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #31 - 06/19/11 at 04:13:32 k, did Steve share what number in queue you are? He told me I was 8 out of 54, I believe.
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kana813 Ex Member	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #32 - 06/19/11 at 04:43:39 I didn't get a number, but I spoke to Sarah last week and she said my amp could be ready to ship on 6/24.
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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #33 - 06/19/11 at 05:21:15 Cool. Congrats. What base did you get?
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kana813 Ex Member	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #34 - 06/19/11 at 05:52:14 Walnut. If I keep the amp, I'll have a custom base made from Ohai or Bubinga.
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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #35 - 06/19/11 at 13:27:47 Nice woods. So, right now, you ordered it with the standard base? The black figured one, or modern walnut?
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Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes
Reply #36 - 06/21/11 at 03:04:23

Hi All,

I've researched the Treasures many times recently and am still "on the fence"....here's my reasoning:

When I got my Torii III (with V-Caps and attenuator option), I felt like I upgraded for things that would last for a long while. I've posted previously about my thoughts on the amp. The thing that I was most unsure about was how the Winged C's would perform. After break-in (1000 plus hours for the V-Caps), I was smitten. Just to make sure that I was mentally attached to my "inner stereo self", I did an A/B with some RFT EL34's. The result was that they were "different". No clear winner, just different. And NO I'm not getting into a tube review. But the supplied Winged C's were a lot cheaper than the RFT's.

So I guess I'm waiting for either someone to knock me out of the tree, or bring me up some food regarding the Treasures.

I still believe that this amp is the true "don't wake me, I"m dreaming" bargain in audio with the current output tubes Steve provides. He does his homework and voices his equipment beautifully.

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Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes
Reply #37 - 06/21/11 at 03:23:33

Steve's been shipping with JJs, which I'm sure are very good as well in the Torii; I've used them in the Integrated and the SE34 Monoblocks to great success.

I really like the Winged Cs as well, it's a great tube in the Torii. I don't doubt that the Treasures are great. . . but right now, til I go to work again, they're out of my price range. Anyoone want to give me a job wiht an outrageous salary?

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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #38 - 06/21/11 at 03:30:50 C.E.: you won't get any argument from me about how you see it. From everything I have read, the Torii is extraordinary. And I bet it doesn't need any upgrades to sound extraordinary. Still, as I mentioned earlier, Steve offers two upgrades that could impact sonics. I decided to try them both.
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C.E. Verified Member Posts: 20	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #39 - 06/21/11 at 03:35:39 Pale, Ok...maybe I was hoping that you'd get some Winged C's as well and give us some comments?.... How close are you on delivery?
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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #40 - 06/21/11 at 04:05:18 I think the Torii ships with JJs, but I have some SEDs as well. I plan to break the Toriis in with stock, and then switch to the STs. I am not sure where I am in queue. I think Bob is trying to prioritize a number of different builds, including my cherry bases.
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kana813 Ex Member	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #41 - 06/24/11 at 23:33:38 PR, have you heard any status on your amps?
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Pale Rider Seasoned Member Posts: 1274	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #42 - 06/25/11 at 00:05:52 I think Bob has to find a way to fit my cherry bases into his workflow. I believe the Ultra is built, and the Toriis may be as well. I got my other Treasures today. Plan to test them next week. They don't come in the fancy box, and they have a paper label on the base, but otherwise they look identical.
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Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes
Reply #43 - 06/25/11 at 00:35:41

Pale.... Squeeze I did. Finish wasn't dry enough to ship today, but they will go out on Monday. As far as I know both Torii's are done along with the Ultra.

Steve told me to take a break from speakers and get on the amp bases. He had a ton of customs, which I did them all. I even did the cherry for you ZS so he won't have to wait on me again.

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Rivieraranch Seasoned Member Posts: 1124	Re: Question About Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z Tubes Reply #44 - 06/25/11 at 00:52:25 Who appointed the Shuguang Company as the holy grail of high priced tubes? I frankly am skeptical about the whole deal. I believe that the Russians and U.S. NOS will be superior to the Chinese stuff.
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