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Re: Some questions on the ZOB build...
Reply #15 - 03/15/11 at 13:17:17
 
Hey 4krow

Did you order that Cherry from an online store or at a local lumber yard?
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Reply #16 - 03/15/11 at 21:03:28
 
Well I spent the last several hours turning some spikes on my lathe. All went well and I now have 6 stainless steel spikes ready to go. Either glue or drill and tap the spike with a bolt through the bottom. I have some VERY good glue that I think will do the job. I plan to make the bottom removable until long after they are done, only adding the glue to it after I am happy with the final product. With no dimensions to go with I used what I believe the Navy refers to as 'Mark I Eyeball'   Yeah I chose an angle by eye, didn't look right so I went a bit tighter. Turns out a 55˚ taper makes a good looking spike. I didn't make them sharp enough to warrant a visit from Homeland security, but if you set one on your foot you are NOT gonna be happy. Left a 1/8" flat on the bottom


I did make a design change I want to mention. I dislike the idea of the screws/glue/joinery around the bottom holding all the weight of the cabinet. So I modified the measurements so I could make the entire cabinet set on the bottom piece. This will give a visible joint but I am ok with that. I was very careful to preserve the exact dimensions of the resonance chamber and associated baffles etc.

I guess this weekend it's a trip to Indianapolis to the lumber company that carries exotics. I also have to shop for a table saw..
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Reply #17 - 03/20/11 at 21:57:23
 
Damien,

 I don't know what your budget is, but I would suggest a Dwalt table saw. I don't remember the model number of mine, but it was around $1,000. I rewired it for 220v, and it has a cutting width of 30". I believe the table size is 27x40, and I have used it for about 4 years now. It's not like the cabinet saw I used to own, but it takes up a lot less space and is less expensive as well. Don't forget to buy a saw with a really good fence, or your just wasting time/money.  BTW, I found a 3" hole saw at the lumber yard today...I was shocked, heh heh
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Reply #18 - 03/24/11 at 20:26:16
 
Sadly... I don't make the kind of $ to spend 1000$ on an occasional use item. However I did find a decent 10" Craftsman, used that had broken plastic around the base. I fixed that with some L angle iron and some strap. MUCH more saw than I could have afforded and it does indeed have a decent fence. I think it cuts up to 24" wide. 40$ Also picked up a Craftsman 16" Scroll Saw in mint condition 40$.

I have my eye on a planer and a jointer. Just trying to decide if I truly plan to get into more woodworking or if this is a passing phase/midlife crisis Wink If I get them that means no iPad for me... decisions decisions..

To further complicate matters my shop is also my garage and it's pretty packed already so smallish and portable are a plus where possible. I  have several non portable items I have to design my floor plan around...
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Reply #19 - 03/24/11 at 23:57:41
 
Good idea with the used saw. If it can be fixed, then that is a good deal. I have the same problem with my shop, think  1930's one-holer. But whoever owned it first was a wood worker, since there is enough room one side for a built in wooden vise and work bench. Probably pretty fancy for the day. Still, I have to be very careful with tool placement and the like, so I feel your pain.
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Reply #20 - 03/31/11 at 18:35:06
 
Just an update; I chose 11 ply baltic birch for the side panels and some other parts. I am using solid rosewood for the top of the box and the back, and I am using solid cherry for the baffle. I will be using a combination of glues , brackets, and pocket holes to assemble this beast. Surely, it will weigh more than I first expected, but I like that idea anyway. Now, I have to decide if I am going to stain the side pieces to match the baffle or the rosewood....
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Reply #21 - 03/31/11 at 20:21:07
 
On the back and box I went with all black (or I am going to anyway... they are as yet unpainted) like the Decware built boxes. On the front I have Birds Eye Maple veneer. It has 2 coats of linseed oil followed by amber shellac. It has the exact color I was looking for but I need some practice at shellacking  ;)  I am going to trim it (edge dressing) in something very dark brown.  I have taken pics  but they are not yet online

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Reply #22 - 05/11/11 at 22:42:52
 
Damien,
  Hows the project coming along? Looks like we have plenty of time to complete them before more FRX drivers will be available. My project is still in the rough cutting stages, but I'm not worried since the weather is finally good enough to let me work in the shop. Sooner or later, I will get far enough along to take some meaningful pictures.... Tongue
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Reply #23 - 05/12/11 at 00:27:46
 
Have a look here

http://www.macmeisters.com/~damien/built/page1/page1.html

Also there is a component rack I built and a piano I plan to restore all with pics

Yeah those FRX's seem like they might take a while. Mr Deckert said there were 6 orders to fill before he gets to the waiting list. 77 on the list as of a few weeks ago. Trouble is I don't know where I am on the list.  :(  He said he gets them in lots of 10. I think I was on the list pretty early (I hope)

I ended up with a great deal on some solid walnut for the edge dressing. 40 feet of 1x2 for 30$ from a local guy. I plan to keep him in mind for future projects.
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Reply #24 - 05/12/11 at 15:21:27
 
Man,  you have been busy! I will swallow my guilt and get back to work. What glue are you using? I plan on using 100% silicone caulk and brackets, but mine will be on the inside.  Thats some really cool maple that you have for the baffles. How thick is the veneer for the walnut sides? Or did you say you were going to paint the cabinet black? I'll try to take some fotos of the baffles tonight.....later
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Reply #25 - 05/13/11 at 00:42:22
 
The maple veneer is very thin 1/8 or less.

The walnut is not veneer. 100% solid tree.. err... wood.

I am painting the cabinet black. Though some veneer back there might look good. The glue is carpenters glue to attach the walnut framing and to glue the two 3/4 pieces of baffle together. For the veneer I used what the lumber place recommended .... contact cement. When they say that contact cement bonds instantly THEY MEAN IT!.  The cabinet is put together using screws but before the final finish it will be sealed with silicone rubber.

I have just attached the spikes to the bottom and the final piece of walnut is ready at the wood working shop for me to pick up tomorrow. Yeah I had to go back for more... sigh, got excited that my process worked very well and cut too many short pieces from the same board. This left me with only enough board for 3 long pieces.. oh well live and learn  :-[
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Reply #26 - 10/17/11 at 18:49:11
 
'D',  Something I just made this weekend may be of interest to you. On my ZOB cabinets, the cones were mounted close to the edges, but there was still some wobble due to the width of the cabinet. So far, I have built outriggers for the front to stabilize the cabinet from rocking(about 3" sticking out on each side), and it works really well. Also I think that the profile of the cones need to be slimmer so that they can stick through carpets easier and get to the floor. That may be the next trick.
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Re: Some questions on the ZOB build...
Reply #27 - 10/18/11 at 01:04:10
 
I agree there should have been 4 spikes but I understand also that the more contact with the floor the less resonance you will get. It's a trade off.

You have pics of your outriggers yet?
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Reply #28 - 10/18/11 at 02:39:14
 
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Re: Some questions on the ZOB build...
Reply #29 - 10/18/11 at 11:15:46
 
Do those replace the original spikes or are they in addition to them?
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