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brians7
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Tone Controls "Or lack there of"
04/07/10 at 00:19:51
 
I will start by saying that in my search for the holy grail I have ended up with the following. Decware MINI TORII, CSP2 and SE84C-S.  On my quest through low fi and hifi recivers and intergrated amps the only thing I find missing are those useful tone controls.  My Mini Torii has a very useful treble control cut, but what might be even more useful would be a new product from Decware something like a tone control switch box.  Like for example one with 4 or 6 controls set at different frequency. All the old tube recivers had them and home stero consoles.  Gosh everything had tone controls on them, and who ever decided that I didn't want them.  So my question is if Decware were to produce such a product would any of you guys be interested? Lord knows if they did it would be a great product.    Thanks Brian
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Re: Tone Controls "Or lack there of"
Reply #1 - 04/07/10 at 03:34:55
 
Interestingly enough, I was just looking on Audiogon to see what was available for an eq, parametric or graphic. Our rooms will never be perfect, nor will recordings, but most importantly, I can't fool myself any longer about my hearing at age 52 as compared to younger years. A simple adjustment for my changed hearing would be appreciated. Your idea for a Decware product to accomidate this need is a good one I think.

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Reply #2 - 04/07/10 at 20:43:12
 
Steve probably would have an interesting take on the component, that's for sure. If Decware puts it out, it's worth considering.  I know that such a component could be a big help to some.
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Reply #3 - 04/08/10 at 01:55:19
 
I studied broadcasting at Miami-Dade Community College in the mid 1970's with Mean Dave Gravel. He said that the men would boost the bass knob on the stereo and the women would turn it down. We have preferences depending upon gender, our hearing, etc. It is to the point that we have to decide whether to accept a certain sound, without tone controls, or have tone controls control the sound - instead of adapting to it as it is. I think that tone controls may create compromises in the ultimate fidelity of each component they are linked to.
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Re: Tone Controls "Or lack there of"
Reply #4 - 04/08/10 at 14:56:55
 
You make valid points.  However I believe tone controls themselves are incredibly handy tools for some situations. And I could conceive of a Decware component of this type which would not necessarily always adversely influence the sound.

I read online on music boards persons with totally topnotch solid state systems bought in the eighties and nineties that have early digital front ends that are still running and that were so expensive they're not being replaced that could really really benefit from some accurate equalization. I read of people buying cd version after cd version of a title to find which one sounds finally right on their rig, where I believe if they used a room mic  and a very fine eq component, especially perhaps a tubed one, or a tube-solid state-switchable/blendable one (hint hint) they could easily and repeatedly find a great sound for recordings and end that sort of software search. They could settle down and relax into the music.

As you know, like tube-rolling, equalization changes can have some great sonic benefits, and some not so great to scary bad sonic results.
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