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Re: What should I replace the stock ^N1p-EV with ?
Reply #15 - 08/11/11 at 02:24:50
 
Another thumbs up for the 6n1p.  I also have a few 6922's of different flavors, but for my room/speakers/ears, the 6n1p is the best match.  Very easy on the ears, full bodied, natural sounding.
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Reply #16 - 08/11/11 at 03:52:52
 
You could try a 6BQ7. They are electrically similar to the 6N1P and are dirt cheap.
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Reply #17 - 09/08/11 at 16:09:25
 
RR, thanks for the mention of this tube type. I ordered a pair of RCAs and have been listening to them in both of my Toriis. Very dynamic tube, perhaps a bit too analytical overall for my taste with some accompanying tubes. Still, a good avenue to explore with different brands, etc. Chris, you may wish to try this tube type out if you have not. . . .
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Reply #18 - 09/08/11 at 16:46:38
 
Thanks for the "nudge"...

I've been reading, but haven't had any time to post. Hope all is well with everybody. I tried that tube and came to the conclusion (as well) that it was a bit too detailed for my current system. VERY good option for the price though. The 6N1P still easily stands out for me as the best sound.

I've tweaked my digital front end a bit and while I originally felt the 0D3 was the best option, I've since settled on the 0C3 and have tried different varieties. My favorite is a 1940's pair of RCA 0C3's. The others I've tried are CBS-Hytron 1950's, Raytheon 1960's ?, Westinghouse 1960's, Sylvania's. All of those tubes affect the sound differently. I suppose I'd call it the "forwardness".

My last endeavor will be to try the 0C3A tube. This is the straight sided RCA 0C3 and should be very close to the coke bottle. The main difference is the voltage sag listed in the specs (I think). The voltage sag may be a good thing though....

Finally, I think it was Pale that mentioned the 1960's RCA rectifiers. I agree that for a warm, full bass they are without peer. I'm stocking up as well.

 
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Reply #19 - 09/08/11 at 16:57:25
 
Should have known you've covered that base!

I've got a Coke bottle RCA OC3 in now, trying it out with this 6BQ7 pair. Sounds pretty good.

My tube-rolling habit is beginning to get out of control! No, just kidding.
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Reply #20 - 09/10/11 at 22:36:04
 
Well, the 6N1P is back in place. The 6BQ7 was an interesting listen, but ultimately it was less open and deep sounding and I missed that sound the 6N1P brings.
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Reply #21 - 01/11/12 at 00:49:15
 
I put a 1967 JAN Sylvania 6BQ7A into my SE84C+ and found that it bested a black plate CBS 6BZ7 that I had in there. It was some more livelier and more detailed. I don't know if this is because the 6BQ7A has higher trans-conductance.

I had first used a tired, old Seimens gold pin ECC88 in that position. While it sounded all right, its tiredness might have compromised the gain.

The 1976 "black plate" 6N1P-EV I tried briefly in there felt warm and dynamic at the same time. It was not laid back by any means.

So far I like the JAN Sylvania 6BQ7A and the 6N1P-EV for the SE84C+.
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Reply #22 - 08/08/12 at 11:57:12
 
I want to ad a tube that I want to find more of but cant. a few months ago I picked up 2 Sylvania 6dj8"s that were made in the USSR. Are they  6n1p's, 23's ,,,,,,,dont know , i know they sound great , after going through the realm of 6dj8's . any comments ????????
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Reply #23 - 08/08/12 at 12:02:44
 
To my knowledge Sylvania did not make anything over in the USSR. You may be describing the 6N23P or 6922 equivalent.
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Reply #24 - 08/17/12 at 11:14:48
 
thanks Rivieraranch, even the Sylvania box says made in USSR. When I bought them on ebay the guy said that they were rare. i ordered 2 n23's ,so i'll look them over with a fine tooth comb to see how close they are. I guess thats the only way of knowing
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Reply #25 - 08/17/12 at 12:29:13
 
If you posed photos over at Audio Asylum tube section, Jim McShane or somebody else way more knowledgeable could opine.
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Reply #26 - 08/28/12 at 20:02:20
 
well fella's got my 6n23's , not a bad tube ,got to give it some break in time ,not the gold pins that are  so expensive . alittle forward , but not offensive . more like a real instrument would standout. liking it. ?????
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Reply #27 - 09/01/12 at 13:21:56
 
i've determined that the 6n23p is probably the closest to the 6n1p overall . more air around instruments, someone said ,thats a plus . the best first watt ive heard........
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Reply #28 - 09/01/12 at 14:28:40
 
I believe that the 6N23P is very similar electrically to the 6N1P.  I tried a cryo'd pair out briefly in my Torii, but ultimately much prefer the 6N1P for my system and material. May pop them in again one of these days or see how they fare as the driver section in a CSP2 or CSP2+ , , , ,
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Reply #29 - 09/02/12 at 12:09:46
 
Hey Lon . Do the cryo'd tubes make a difference? never tried them . realigning molecules, i guess it cant hurt???
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