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giorgino
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #105 - 09/16/07 at 01:24:04
 
Lon wrote on 09/15/07 at 22:01:22:
All Steve has to do is rename this amp "The King James Version Zen."


Heh heh heh...

There was once a time where "The Raw Meat Zen" would have suffice. Smiley

Me thinks there is a pattern a showin'
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #106 - 09/16/07 at 02:46:46
 
giorgino wrote on 09/16/07 at 01:24:04:
Heh heh heh...

There was once a time where "The Raw Meat Zen" would have suffice. Smiley

Me thinks there is a pattern a showin'


Yup! Smiley Don
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #107 - 09/16/07 at 08:24:40
 
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In the meanwhile I am going to go back to a tubed CD player that will equal or surpass the previous two that I have done and it will be under a grand.

Steve

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 Awesome Mr.D, thats the kinda talk I've been waiting to hear Cool



 Regarding the reason for this thread: 'the new amps'  Way cool Steve, if I had the dough right now I'd go for it in a second.

Last summer I bought the Taboo amp from you and have never been so drawn into the music  ever in my life, and if you believe these new ones are your best yet then I could just imagine how good these must be.    Dave Smiley

 
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #108 - 09/16/07 at 18:07:04
 
Not to flog a dead horse, but wow, such self-important arrogance coming from someone around this thread whose name begins with a "C". Heads so large on the outside are frequently shrunken on the inside. Tongue

I have freakin' hard-edged opinions, also, but hopefully a sense of humility as to how they fit in context among folks I consider friends, and wish to continue in dialog with.  

That said, the new mono's are VASTLY interesting; I would be among the first ten owners in a heart beat, if my current finances would support it!  Hmmm, what to sell, what to sell Smiley

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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #109 - 09/16/07 at 18:38:50
 
MikeW wrote on 09/15/07 at 16:43:56:
Bottom line, Corey...right or wrong, showed poor taste in using this thread to express his opinions.




With all due respect, Corey - this ain't the first time.   In the "spirit" (can I use that word, or do you hold a monopoly?) of freedom of speech, we should all be allowed some tolerance, but considering your history on this forum, I think Steve's gracious forbearance is commendable.


You're not the only member of this forum to enjoy a personal, if long distance relationship with Eddie, and you're doing no-one any favors with your comments or "quotes" in his name.


Perhaps after you have invested as much time, sweat and blood as either of these two designers, your opinions as to the merits of their design philosophies or "compromises" might bear more credence.

 


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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #110 - 09/16/07 at 19:14:00
 
veryoldcat wrote on 09/16/07 at 18:07:04:
Not to flog a dead horse, but wow, such self-important arrogance coming from someone around this thread whose name begins with a "C". Heads so large on the outside are frequently shrunken on the inside. Tongue



Or threads are shrunken. I posted to this thread to wake Steve up and my posting was not in vain. He went and deleted his remarks about his electrolytic capacitor/resistive filter amps and I respect that. I am now going to go delete my quotations  of those remarks for future readers and more importantly, Steve.

I have also received emails from Eddie fans telling me to shut my mouth etc. Like somehow Eddie Vaughn came up with the concept of choke pi filters which Steve now uses in his amps, or Eddie came up with all poly supplies which Steve is now using in his amps, or Eddie came up with the idea of offering multiple coupling cap options which Steve now uses in his amps. Bottom line is ALL the glory goes to the LORD, Glory to God! Wake up and don't find yourself like King Herod. God has many ways to destroy someone who doesn't give God the glory. Maybe it is a cancer, maybe a freak accident, maybe a failed buisness, maybe a ...

"For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"  I Corinthians 4:7

"And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost." Acts 12:21-23


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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #111 - 09/16/07 at 19:17:37
 
Corey wrote on 09/16/07 at 19:14:00:
Bottom line is ALL the glory goes to the LORD, Glory to God! Wake up and don't find yourself like King Herod. God has many ways to destroy someone who doesn't give God the glory. Maybe it is a cancer, maybe a freak accident, maybe a failed buisness, maybe a ...

"For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"  I Corinthians 4:7

"And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost." Acts 12:21-23


Corey


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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #112 - 09/16/07 at 20:04:21
 
Steve,  Do the these amps like low impedence speakers like the original Zens? How about the tubes, Sv83 or EL84  does the same thing apply?(SV83=more spank,EL84=mellower)  Thanks, Tish


Gee Corey, Do you really want those bad things to happen to people that don't believe in the things that you do?






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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #113 - 09/16/07 at 21:44:34
 
A small aperture centered below the lower back!
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #114 - 09/16/07 at 23:11:01
 
paulc wrote on 09/16/07 at 21:44:34:
A small aperture centered below the lower back!


Grin

Hilarious until one of those small aperatures centered below the lower back heads up a theocracy and starts requiring everyone to walk their walk. Smiley
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #115 - 09/17/07 at 01:44:33
 
Hi Tish,

(If I read Steve correctly) the new mono's ought to have more oomph with an 8 ohm single driver full range, yet still drive low impedances like the original se84's. It was said the trannies were the same.

This interests me tremendously as I'm still very hooked on my Parker 98's, but am enjoying some experimentation with an fe126 in a blh. The Select does a very good job with the little fe126 at moderate volumes, but becomes congested at more demanding levels (unlike with the Parkers where the Select can play insanely loud before congestion and clipping).

If I'm off center, perhaps someone can clean me up.

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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #116 - 09/17/07 at 03:49:35
 
Karl: How big is your room? I ask, because my Select drives these 126's plenty loud in my room, (24x13 w/ vaulted ceiling). You can overdrive 'em alright, but I never listen that loud.
Steve's new amps are tres intriguing! Smiley
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #117 - 09/17/07 at 04:44:51
 
Hi Don,

Hmm, well the listening area here is 12' wide with a 7 1/2' acoustic tile ceiling for a length of 18', but beyond that, the ceilings go up to over 8'. There is no wall crossing the length-wise direction, however, and the listening area is open to the rest of the house.

Yes, I CAN crank the 126's quite loud, but there are certain sorts of recordings that at a healthy volume have dynamic crests that can/will challenge the Select. It's usually classical recordings that have a great deal of overtone energy that press the dynamics. Close miked choral and piano with wide dynamic ranges come to mind, but also symphonic recordings.

Wondering where the limits lie with the fe126's, I cranked some favorite Henry Purcell choral music (the anthems), and at "genuine life-sized" volume there is noticeable compression at various high points that I wouldn't experience with my Parkers. It's quite a bit easier to find the headroom limits of the Select with the fe126 than with the Parker 98's. With the Parkers, your ears have to BLEED first.

Still, the Planet 10 modded fe126's are very surprising in the frugel blh with the plain ol' Select! The limits I've suggested would only occasionally be a drawback.

Karl

ps- my interest in the extra "drive" of the new monos for an 8 ohm full range is somewhat due to having an interest in experimenting somewhat with the fe166 (not sure what, but possibly something). No tengo proper corners for Steve's cornerhorn, so it would be different. Maybe a bib...





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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #118 - 09/17/07 at 05:05:03
 
Hmm, the signature "Decware sound", with the added headroom.These new amps sound like a winner ! Smiley
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Re: NEW DECWARE AMP at DECFEST2007
Reply #119 - 09/17/07 at 12:35:25
 
Dirty_Dawg wrote on 09/14/07 at 05:19:43:
I don't think anyone is referring to infrasonics in reference to music, are they?

You should be safe from nausea at normal listening volumes, even if you are sensitive to higher bass frequencies.



I have been trying to figure out why this was happening... and I think I may have figured it out. It is not the sub-sonics. When I listen with my eyes closed my eyes rapidly dart back and forth as I "focus" on intruments and sounds in the music. For some reason music with the lowest bass seems to have more depth, front to back. After a few hours of listening, I think I am suffering from "self induced motion sickness". This happens more rapidly with bass heavy music because my eyes are literally focusing near and far even while closed. As I focus on closer instruments and then on drums or percussion... this really makes me sick. What a relief that I am not being exposed to the 'death frequency'.

I hate it when I'm a passenger in the car and not the driver!  ;D

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