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Deform
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6" driver In a WO (completed) (images)
06/14/07 at 06:13:11
 
OK, so i want to put in two 6" drivers so all i would need to do is scale it by half? So use 18x18 square base with 4" 2" for the 'drawing-up' of it and 1" for the 'throat'?

Cheers  :)
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #1 - 06/28/07 at 04:24:21
 
Odd.
I never saw this post not that it matters now. Hot heads!

I tend to move along without having a temper tantrum and flaming a bunch of people I do not even know.
Oh well. Glad I only have to really care about temper tantrums from my children and my handicapped clients.
That said if this pup comes back to see if he hurt anyone and made them feel naughty for either missing or ignoring his post I will offer my useless and empty advice.

I know that some have had success scaling the whole thing. I have only had success by lowering the height to accept the smaller sub. I have built some scaled WO's and found them loud boomy and a pain to crossover to make it sound decent.
No matter what I did I could not make them sound as good as the simple full size layout and a lower height.
So I cannot answer your question Deform because of my lack of success. if you want a loud box with no SQ by all means go for it. you really never know until you try.
There has been a few that scaled the WO and liked the sound, I was not one of them and the ones I know of have moved along or rarely visit now.
I will tell you the ones I did were really loud but sucked in deep bass and difficult to crossover. they also were either way to tight and to high or boomy and to high

I hope that helps its the best I can do.
I doubt you will answer this and admit that you were perhaps a little harsh and apologize.
But you never know, some people are bigger than just their emotional state.

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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #2 - 06/28/07 at 18:05:08
 
I never saw this post either Gex,
I guess it got lost in the timing when I wasn't on the forum or when I was busy elsewhere. It is a shame that someone couldn't just post a quick "hello, did anyone see this post?" or even a "bump".

For the record, I agree with Gex. The WO is very friendly when built to the same dimensions and changing the height, but gets to be a bit of a beast when you change the width at all. I am guessing that the angles and openings act a lot more like a horn that I originally thought. It isn't long enough for the theory to hold out, but when it gets truncated it gets very hard to work with.

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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #3 - 06/29/07 at 21:39:57
 
Deform wrote on 06/28/07 at 03:48:44:
OK then you can all burn in hell... is it that hard to help a n00b? Well it must be...

that's what i call over-reacting. there has been a post in the past (with a pic) about the scaled down wo. maybe reasearch ?
my memory is failing
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #4 - 07/04/07 at 23:36:52
 
Sheesh - take a chill - 2 posts and one of em is a whine. I just posted quite a long post on a 18X18 WO. 6.5" drivers WONT fit. The 4" drivers I used barely fit. 6.5" drivers MIGHT fit in a Half-scaled WO32 but not a WO.
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #5 - 07/25/07 at 04:30:14
 
Yes, i agree perhaps i did over-react, although i did end up getting a respose so i suppose that i did succed in the end, and to those who were offended by my harsh words i appoligise.
I ended up making the 6 1/2" box, with 16mm MDF and two Jacycar 6.5" woofers, although the design was altered to 20" square and a total of about 8" tall with the throat being around 1".
It's not the most cosmetic thing i've seen mainly due to the err... 'odd' workmanship probably because this was my first ever sub-box which i built.
It's currently waiting at my mates place awiting some foam and carpet aswell as needing a more powerfull amplifier than the miserable thing i have now. i'll get around to posting some pictures if anyone is interested.
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #6 - 07/25/07 at 20:59:44
 
how's the output?
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #7 - 07/26/07 at 01:00:09
 
Deform wrote on 07/25/07 at 04:30:14:
Yes, i agree perhaps i did over-react, although i did end up getting a respose so i suppose that i did succed in the end, and to those who were offended by my harsh words i appoligise.
I ended up making the 6 1/2" box, with 16mm MDF and two Jacycar 6.5" woofers, although the design was altered to 20" square and a total of about 8" tall with the throat being around 1".
It's not the most cosmetic thing i've seen mainly due to the err... 'odd' workmanship probably because this was my first ever sub-box which i built.
It's currently waiting at my mates place awiting some foam and carpet aswell as needing a more powerfull amplifier than the miserable thing i have now. i'll get around to posting some pictures if anyone is interested.


Sure pictures are always good. and thanks for coming back, the more the merrier you know!
Look forward to it.
I lurk at a lot of forums and sometimes questions never get answered so don't feel singled out. I have also made posts years ago elsewhere that remain unanswered along with Pm's.
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #8 - 07/26/07 at 02:30:21
 
Agreed!  I felt sort of sad inside that someone came along, got disappointed and left so quickly.  I guess they didn't leave afterall.   Wink
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Late to update *no pics yet*
Reply #9 - 08/06/07 at 02:34:36
 
I'm still here although i haven't got any pictures for you all yet. I'm still in the process of building my crossovers and i'm still witout a powerfull enough amp.  :(
It's not looking that bad although i'm not too sure aboot the throat that it has as it is square in the corner and is probably a little too close to the sides.
Does anyone reccomend deadening it with anything?
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #10 - 08/06/07 at 05:26:48
 
I used dacron stuffing in the sealed chamber
I used some 3M thinsulate to line the compression chamber and the first bend to the base of the V.
With the higher freq tendencies of the smaller drivers I feel that its the thing to do.
but I do it quite often with other subs.

Steve says that nothing is needed and while I would never disagree its just something I do anyway.
Hope that helps It looks like I caught you you right off this time. Wink
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Re: Quick 6" driver scaling
Reply #11 - 08/20/07 at 02:16:09
 
AHHHHHHHHH!!!! Woo, it's finished and sounding fantastic. Although i want to put it in a sedan and see how it sounds while its not in a hatch-back.
Well, It is together and in my car getting around 200wrms, and i have a low pass of about 80Hz for the moment and it is all sounding good, i have only had a preliminary fiddle with getting the dound right but it looks very promising.
My mate cannot belive that two 80wrms 6" can play like that and are able to hit as low as they do (my car has rattles now...).
I have pictures but seeing as i dont have the net at home i'm finding it hard to get them up. The box was my first and was a steep learning curve for me but other than some 'chuffing' as the throats are a little narrow, it all went well.
I'm going to get some stuffing for the box as i know that the sealed section is nowhere near the size that it should be and i'm not too sure aboot inverting the drivers (any help?).
I'm planning to build my next one soon.
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Re: 6" driver In a WO (completed)
Reply #12 - 08/21/07 at 01:47:24
 
Righty-O I've got some pictures of progress to date. I'm no too sure how to upload them but i hope this works.





Well that's it sitting on the diagram for the 36"x36" version of the box.





This was just a shot of the speaker sitting in (through) the baffle.





And a top-view.

I should get some new pics on here some time soon but i'm not too sure.
Comments?
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Re: 6" driver In a WO (completed) (images)
Reply #13 - 08/25/07 at 04:01:12
 
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Re: 6" driver In a WO (completed) (images)
Reply #14 - 08/25/07 at 07:41:24
 
That look realy good, i'ts cute!  :D
Nice and small, great for a room that's not to big, for students?
how does it sounds in a room?
Any testing indoors yet?

Good job!
ow yeah, what is the fs of those 6" drivers?

Bart
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