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best 12" subs and amp for WO12?
04/26/07 at 00:49:41
 
i'm gonna put a WO12 in my friends Caprice (copcar). he listens to rap and wants loud low bass. what subs should i get and with what amp for not an outrageous price. thnks for any input u might have.
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Re: best 12" subs and amp for WO12?
Reply #1 - 04/26/07 at 01:12:30
 
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Re: best 12" subs and amp for WO12?
Reply #2 - 04/26/07 at 06:28:20
 
the wo is designd for 10s, if your friend doesnt have the subs already use 10s because many people have had problems scaleing it to suit 12s. there are many, many, many 10s out there that will play loud and low bass in rap and hip hop all day long.

build it for 10s. 36 x 36,

http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=9100c




please do it.  ;)
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Reply #3 - 04/26/07 at 15:05:37
 
the db500's are a very nice choice. did i mention how much i like the tc2+ motor ? Cheesy
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Reply #4 - 04/26/07 at 16:30:52
 
these look good too.  and yes, some whoop @ss 10's would be fine.
http://www.tcsounds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1013

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Re: best 12" subs and amp for WO12?
Reply #5 - 04/26/07 at 22:41:48
 
well the tc and the dd both can handle 800 wrms.

im gona sujjest you build 2 versions of the 10" wo's, and try a pair of each the tc and the dds.

report back with which ones work / sound betta!

wo + 2000 wrms + 2 x badass 10" drivers  =  the sex.   Tongue

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Reply #6 - 04/27/07 at 00:51:53
 
thanks for the info guys. havent' there been a lot of successful WO12? r u sure a WO10 will play low enough? i have a WO 10 with the Dec subs and it doesn't go all that low. have u tried the DDs on a WO before? i heard that u don't want subs with a lot of xmax in a WO cause it will cause port noise at the throat. is that true cause these subs have serious xmax #s? and how do ur order the DD subs. what are the prices? what if i built a DB12 instead of the WO 10? would that be better? i've never heard one before. and are there any amp suggestions? and does THD% matter when it comes to sub amps? i heard it doesn't.i found this amp.

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6523_Hifonics+BXi+2006D.html

and the tc sub site says "Small Sealed: 0.3 cubic feet
Large Sealed 0.6 cubic feet

Ported:
0.5-0.6 cubic feet with a single 10" or 12" PR

(don't try and port this any other way, it just wont work right unless you want peaky SPL bass.)"
does that mean it won't work in a WO?
and it's SPL is 83! isn't that really low?
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Reply #7 - 04/27/07 at 15:32:29
 
don't worry about efficiency when it comes to subs.
thd doesn't weigh too much when looking at an amp.
the 10 will play low enough for any kind of music Smiley
get something that can feed a pair of those ~2kW
or try only one sub in a db10.
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Reply #8 - 04/27/07 at 16:20:14
 
speakerfreak7 wrote on 04/27/07 at 00:51:53:
thanks for the info guys. havent' there been a lot of successful WO12? r u sure a WO10 will play low enough? i have a WO 10 with the Dec subs and it doesn't go all that low. have u tried the DDs on a WO before? i heard that u don't want subs with a lot of xmax in a WO cause it will cause port noise at the throat. is that true cause these subs have serious xmax #s? and how do ur order the DD subs. what are the prices? what if i built a DB12 instead of the WO 10? would that be better? i've never heard one before. and are there any amp suggestions? and does THD% matter when it comes to sub amps? i heard it doesn't.i found this amp.

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6523_Hifonics+BXi+2006D.html

and the tc sub site says "Small Sealed: 0.3 cubic feet
Large Sealed 0.6 cubic feet

Ported:
0.5-0.6 cubic feet with a single 10" or 12" PR

(don't try and port this any other way, it just wont work right unless you want peaky SPL bass.)"
does that mean it won't work in a WO?
and it's SPL is 83! isn't that really low?


there's a guy on ca.com(caraudio.com) selling his IncriminatorAudio 20.1's for $325 each.  I'd rather have that than the hifonics ANY DAY.
the TC's would work once you factor in driver displacment, you may drop in some 2x4 to fill in any extra airspace though.  The  DD would work, there's even lower series that can take the abuse.  I run DD in my SPL setups, just in regular ported boxes.
post a worklog, this ought to be good.
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Reply #9 - 04/29/07 at 20:52:00
 
just curious. how can efficiency not really matter? i thought that was one of the main things u look for. the decware subs page talks all about how it's important to have a high spl. and how do u order the dd subs?
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Reply #10 - 04/30/07 at 18:38:39
 
go to ddaudio.com and look under dealer locator.  if there's not a dealer near you, you can order them online.
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Reply #11 - 04/30/07 at 21:33:20
 
efficiency is going to be thrown off by the box design and by cabin gain.
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Reply #12 - 05/01/07 at 01:35:53
 
just lookn around. what about this infinity sub.

http://www.lightav.com/car/infinity/subs/subs2005.html

it says it plays down to 25hz and has a 91dB spl. for only $110.

or should i go with the tc sounds tc-1000? ot spend the extra $25 and get the 10 OEM?

http://www.tcsounds.com/tc1000.htm

http://www.tcsounds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1013

and has anyone used subs with 20mm xmax in a WO b4? how did it sound? thanks for the info guys.
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Reply #13 - 05/01/07 at 06:53:36
 
go with the the oem 10. and don't worry about xmax. 20mm xmax doesn't mean they will be moving all the time that distance.
the low frequency extension depends on the "enviromnent", box and sub. i don't care what infinity says Tongue you could very well throw it in a crappy designed ported box and wonder why you don't hear the low stuff.
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Re: best 12" subs and amp for WO12?
Reply #14 - 05/01/07 at 17:39:14
 
speakerfreak7 wrote on 05/01/07 at 01:35:53:
has anyone used subs with 20mm xmax in a WO b4? how did it sound? .


i would open the compression chamber port area a little with very high excursion high power applications, just a little tho maybe 1 inch, to avoid any possibility of noise/issues?
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