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60ndown
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scaleing it in a nutshell
01/16/07 at 02:12:06
 
i have 2 sexy 12s (high power high excursion) to put in a new build, its gonna be another wo, im leaning towards scaleing all the numbers by 1.2

over just makeing it 2 inches taller and angling the baffle.


in 10 words or less which would you do and why?
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aznboi3644
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Reply #1 - 01/16/07 at 05:03:48
 
Whats subs would these be 60???
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bassboy
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Reply #2 - 01/16/07 at 05:16:42
 
I'd sell them 2 sexy 12's and buy 2 more reasonable 10's (ie. - cheaper) and a reasonable sized amp with the money.  Should have enough left over to pay for the box materials as well as a couple of cases of beer.

Sorry, but you wanted opinions.

I don't think anyone really needs more than this simple setup can deliver (reasonably powered 10's), I wouldn't put anything larger than a 10 in a WO and I'm not sure why you always insist on massive overkill in the driver dept. but don't seem to adapt the plans much to accomodate these monsters.
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HT-EXT
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Reply #3 - 01/16/07 at 10:44:02
 
My plans would be two inches taller with Dayton HOs.

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PS. I ONLY USED 10.     HAHA!
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Adrian D.
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Reply #4 - 01/16/07 at 12:23:49
 
i wish i had some pennies. i'd try those 12's in a scaled wo.
look at how steve scaled the hwk-10 to the hwk-12. that's how i'd do it.
aznboi3644 : 2 rl-p 12's.
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60ndown
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Reply #5 - 01/16/07 at 14:25:39
 
[quote author=Adrian D.  link=1168917126/0#4 date=1168950229]
look at how steve scaled the hwk-10 to the hwk-12.   [/quote]

not sure exactly what he did, even tho i have both sets of plans? and i think horns are more vulnerable to dimension changes.
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60ndown
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Reply #6 - 01/16/07 at 14:57:18
 
[quote author=bassboy  link=1168917126/0#2 date=1168924602]I'd sell them 2 sexy 12's and buy 2 more reasonable 10's [/quote]

good idea , i haven t thought abut that ???
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Adrian D.
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Reply #7 - 01/16/07 at 15:21:37
 
try it 2" taller if you're not too sure about upscaling. the rl-p likes sealed boxes around 1.2 cf. looks like the sealed chamber in the wo is close.
and if you decide on buying 10's, look at some fi's or bm's or even rl-i's
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djman37
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Reply #8 - 01/16/07 at 17:16:52
 
i went 2" taller for my 12's, it worked GREAT.

-10 words.
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BigAir
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Reply #9 - 01/17/07 at 20:35:43
 
[quote author=60ndown  link=1168917126/0#0 date=1168913526] im leaning towards scaleing all the numbers by 1.2 [/quote]

Do that and your WO will be about 70% larger.
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BigAir
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Reply #10 - 01/17/07 at 20:41:48
 
[quote author=60ndown  link=1168917126/0#0 date=1168913526]in 10 words or less which would you do and why? [/quote]

Steve say add the 2 inches. That's enough for me.
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60ndown
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Reply #11 - 01/17/07 at 23:55:50
 
[quote author=BigAir  link=1168917126/0#9 date=1169066143]

Do that and your WO will be about 70% larger.
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1.2 is 20% bigger? bigger driver bigger box = same performance me thinks?
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Tr3vWh0r3
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Reply #12 - 01/18/07 at 00:48:23
 
My cousin built the 12" version with Pioneer Premiers and his friend has the 10" version with $5 flea market subs. I preferred the sound of the 10" version.
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BigAir
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Reply #13 - 01/18/07 at 12:04:45
 
[quote author=60ndown  link=1168917126/0#11 date=1169078150]

1.2 is 20% bigger? bigger driver bigger box = same performance me thinks? [/quote]

WO=36x36x13.5 or 10.125 square feet.
Every dimension 1.2 bigger would be 43.2x43.2x16.2 or 17.496 square feet.
Just making it 2" taller would be 36x36x15.5 or 11.625 square feet.
If you want exactly it 20% bigger it would be
36x36x16.2 or 12.15 square feet.
10.125 + 20% = 12.15
In my opinion, that would be the best way to go because the horn lengths would stay exactly the same and your cone size to horn size ratio would be accurate.
Try the math yourself and you'll see what I mean.
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Reply #14 - 01/18/07 at 13:32:35
 
[quote author=60ndown  link=1168917126/0#0 date=1168913526]i have 2 sexy 12s (high power high excursion) to put in a new build, its gonna be another wo, im leaning towards scaleing all the numbers by 1.2

over just makeing it 2 inches taller and angling the baffle.


in 10 words or less which would you do and why?
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In ten words of less:
You can't fit a Wicked one in a nutshell 60



I use the 2 inches taller because that was Steves advice to me on the 12" and its simplier. Oh ya It does change the horn length and Big Air had good results that way was also a reason ( sorry thats more than ten words)
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