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gexter
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12" radio shacks found, oh what to do?
10/09/05 at 04:34:19
 
I found 2 Radio shack 12' 100 watt P/N 40-1023B 8 Ohm speakers that I thought I threw out awhile ago because I thought they were junk. well I repaired them today cleaned off the mouse excrement and they work. Yes I know they are still junk, however they are useable for a project sub.

I was thinking about the HWK right off. what say you creators and modders.


Gex
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stvcmty
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Re: 12" radio shacks found, oh what to do?
Reply #1 - 10/09/05 at 06:21:32
 
Build the box to the HW15 dimensions.  It will give you lower tunings, and if the RS speakers sound like junk, you can load some good speakers into the right size box.
The HW15 is easy to cut from 2 full sheets of plywood, its dimensions lay out well.

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HB Bass
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Reply #2 - 10/13/05 at 19:06:09
 
Don't know the dimensions of your listening room but mine is pretty large and my 10" HWK completely fills it and shook one of my wife's ceramic birdie things off a shelf and you know what she did to me?

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Reply #3 - 10/13/05 at 21:08:29
 
HB,

I live in fear of the day one of my wife's treasured paintings her mother did on both sides of a GLASS (!) pane for 3-dimentionality succombs to the pressures of my, occassionally loud, listening practices. I just hope we're watching a kid movie when it happens. Smiley

Gex,

I think stv has a great idea for you. I saw a pic of someone with a side removable instead of the ends. That's a pretty good idea, too. Maybe build it with a center chamber insert that would be removable?
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jj420
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Reply #4 - 10/13/05 at 21:50:03
 
I agree with stv Gex...

build the HWK15, put the 12s in it and see. if you dont like it you can always fix it later.

get some old couch cushions from the sally ann to put on top of the thing, and tell the boss its a new seat for the entry LOL.
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gexter
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Reply #5 - 10/15/05 at 06:20:49
 
thanks guys after myWO32 build  a RS 12" 15HWK it will be!
thinking of the attic believe it or not

60 was joking about his HWK in the garage, I thought that was a great idea. Or were you joking?
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Reply #6 - 10/15/05 at 11:12:18
 
[quote author=gexter  link=1128832459/0#5 date=1129353649]60 was joking about his HWK in the garage, I thought that was a great idea. Or were you joking?
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I had the impression that the status of the HWK was being negotiated by a commitee of WAF objections and things weren't looking good for the boy's toys. Smiley
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Reply #7 - 10/27/05 at 15:09:38
 
my wife is amazing, if i really wanted the hwk in the house i could negotiate it, but the wo32 is all i need for now. the hwk is waiting in the garage for a new home?

and i would consider clamshelling the 2 rs  drivers in a 12"death box?
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gexter
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Reply #8 - 10/28/05 at 02:30:11
 
Really? ???
Hmm what makes you say that?
they are 12" floppy poly speakers with very loose foam surrounds.

I gotta know why.

Gex
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J_Rock
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Reply #9 - 10/28/05 at 14:41:27
 
ten inch DB is pretty awesome, however the 12 inch DB truely transforms crappy 12s.  As a youngin' still, I have many friends that have seen the light and moved beyond high power ratings and into good design. In their wake they leave me many a fallen subwoofer.  So I enjoy taking these worn out bad sounding woofers, and seeing if they can be made to sound, well, better.

The DB12 is capable of creating bass beasts out of every 12 I have ever put into it, however the crappiest require clamshelling.  So, I would not worry abotu clamshelling crappy drivers in a DB12, it will help them out a ton!
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Reply #10 - 10/28/05 at 15:03:06
 
its like j rock said, clamshelling helps with cheaper drivers, also the db2 is way smaller than a hw and can be used in many different applications, the hw is also desighned for 15s and those that have built it with 12s have not been overwhelmed with the perfomance?
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gexter
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Reply #11 - 10/28/05 at 17:04:19
 
thanks guys

clamshelling and the smallish sealed area would provide much greater control over the drivers.

This drivers has been in at least 5 enclosures over the years and are pretty flexible. but some where better than others.

I am not a huge fan of the DB and never thought of using the clamshelling design of the DB 12"

Gex

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Reply #12 - 10/28/05 at 22:28:13
 
Not so much of a fan of the 12 in DB as the ten, but still a fan here.
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gexter
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Reply #13 - 10/29/05 at 04:07:45
 
[quote author=J_Rock  link=1128832459/0#12 date=1130534893]Not so much of a fan of the 12 in DB as the ten, but still a fan here. [/quote]

I am confused now or it could be my migrane but you said that the DB transforms a crappy 12 before, but your also saying that you like the 10 better.
So why waste my clamshell 12" in a DB if a single 10' sounds better.

Do you think that 4 tylenol threes  with 2 gravols and 500mg of ibuprophen is two much in a hour? uuuuh uhh sorry wrong forum!
I can't find my bunny can you help me find my bunny?

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Reply #14 - 10/29/05 at 18:53:35
 
i agree with j_rock that the db-12 works well when loaded with cheapies. i really don't know about clamshelling in any of the dbs. i'll try it after i change my amp.
but i also know my db-10 (loaded with a cheapie) is louder (and maybe has better sq ? ) then my db-12 any day. i never heard them loaded with propper drivers, so who am i to know ?
i like small enclosures, because the bigger it is the heavier it is to move and find a suitable/good sounding place.
try the rs with a hwk15 and if you dont like it you can always cut the panels smaller to build a db-12 or store the hw and load it int the future with something good. but i don't know what you should do if you don't like the db-12 with rs because you can't add back the material you cut.
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