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60ndown
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why you shouldn't build a wo32.
09/28/05 at 19:02:51
 
i have been working @ home for the past 2 weeks (fitting a new kitchen) and that means ive been able to listen to my humble rig as much as i wanted the way i wanted (almost 8 hours a day-straight and fairly loud-wife is @ work) well the point is that the wo32 is so good, it makes every other sub i own seem flawed!  and that is a pity, because i like my bass, but when its not comming from the 32 its missing a lot? so if your enjoying your bass and you dont want to spoil your pleasure, dont build a wo32?
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gexter
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Re: why you shouldn't build a wo32.
Reply #1 - 09/29/05 at 00:18:25
 
Thats great!
I am been tossing the idea of building a WO32 with Steves drivers for too long.
it's just a reminder how good they are.
Right now its on the list before the Imp SO, because I even have a place for it now .
Got to have something to do this winter you know!

Gex
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60ndown
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Re: why you shouldn't build a wo32.
Reply #2 - 09/29/05 at 00:28:37
 
[quote author=gexter  link=1127934171/0#1 date=1127949505]Thats great!
I am been tossing the idea of building a WO32 with Steves drivers for too long.
it's just a reminder how good they are.
Right now its on the list before the Imp SO, because I even have a place for it now .
Got to have something to do this winter you know!

Gex [/quote]

i used these...they work very nicely Winkin fact its been pointed out in another thread that these might be the  drivers steve modded to create his?

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-110
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J_Rock
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Re: why you shouldn't build a wo32.
Reply #3 - 09/29/05 at 02:48:38
 
Yeah 60, those are my favorite tens since they are so close to steve's..hehe I just gotta find the 15s he used in his imperials.....
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playntheblues
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Re: why you shouldn't build a wo32.
Reply #4 - 10/11/05 at 01:07:18
 
Hi guys,  I have a couple of questions if you don't mind ???  I have a pair of Radial 3.0's.  I have had them for about a month now and they are breaking in nicely.  I love what they do but would like to be able to go down to about 20 hz.  I have been thinking about getting ether an Wo or wo32, my ownly concern is the 3.0's 3 db down point is somewhere around 35 hz and the wo32 and the wo's 3 db down point is 28hz.  Now from what I read the subs sound GREAT Smiley  but do to the fact I don't have the tools to build one I would have Bob Z build it for me.  Do you think it would be worth the $1,000.00 just for a couple of more hz about 7 Cry?
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playntheblues
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Reply #5 - 10/13/05 at 20:24:30
 
WOO Lips Sealed EASY now guys Kiss Please don't all respond at once, I can't keep up with all the reading Sad
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Re: why you shouldn't build a wo32.
Reply #6 - 10/13/05 at 21:32:40
 
see, the idea is to cross your radials over to the sub at a higher frequency, so that they play the higher frequencies more cleanly, let the WO handle from 60 and down, and get the bass out of the radials with a simple first order cap inline, youll lose a bit of sensitivity with that, but it will actually help the integration of the sub.
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Jet-Lee
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Reply #7 - 10/13/05 at 21:34:31
 
wow, $1000 for a sub? I spent $50 on supplies and made a kickass WO24 for my car. My only issue is what sounds like port noise.
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Reply #8 - 10/13/05 at 22:10:21
 
[quote author=playntheblues  link=1127934171/0#4 date=1128989238]Hi guys,  I have a couple of questions if you don't mind ???  I have a pair of Radial 3.0's.  I have had them for about a month now and they are breaking in nicely.  I love what they do but would like to be able to go down to about 20 hz.  I have been thinking about getting ether an Wo or wo32, my ownly concern is the 3.0's 3 db down point is somewhere around 35 hz and the wo32 and the wo's 3 db down point is 28hz.  Now from what I read the subs sound GREAT Smiley  but do to the fact I don't have the tools to build one I would have Bob Z build it for me.  Do you think it would be worth the $1,000.00 just for a couple of more hz about 7 Cry? [/quote]

I want a WO32, but I don't have the tools, the skills, and I am lousy with geometry.  I am going to get Ziggy to build me a Cadillac version of the WO32 when I get ready to use it.  I am still in search of the perfect amp setup to drive it.
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playntheblues
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Reply #9 - 10/14/05 at 14:27:04
 
Guys thanks for your thoughts Smiley
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gexter
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Reply #10 - 10/14/05 at 14:27:05
 
[quote author=matchstikman  link=1127934171/0#8 date=1129237821]

I want a WO32, but I don't have the tools, the skills, and I am lousy with geometry.  I am going to get Ziggy to build me a Cadillac version of the WO32 when I get ready to use it.  I am still in search of the perfect amp setup to drive it.
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Hey Match what makes up a Cadillac version?
I will be making a WO32 this winter.

Playtheblues- practically speaking a couple Hz is not worth it. I would just give them a quick phone call to ask direct.

Gex
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60ndown
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Reply #11 - 10/14/05 at 15:20:37
 
[quote author=gexter  link=1127934171/0#10 date=1129296425]

Hey Match what makes up a Cadillac version?
I will be making a WO32 this winter.

Playtheblues- practically speaking a couple Hz is not worth it. I would just give them a quick phone call to ask direct.

Gex [/quote]

id have to disagree wit yo gex, if a speaker if running out of skills at about 39,36,32, hz?? its perormance is going to get a little weak there abouts? whereas the wo32 starts to perform about 80-90hz and really does its thing from there and down. i recently visited a guy that had the full decware set up source amps z box parkers and more, but he didnt have a sub...it needed one in my opinion....nothing like a clean 30 or less hz being deliverd effortlessly? but $1000? i built mine for less than $200.
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gexter
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Reply #12 - 10/14/05 at 15:35:27
 
well I have not built one yet, but 7 hz ? thats not much but I guess I will reserve my opinion until I have one built and can play with the crossover points.
the Ear will tell me

Gex
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Reply #13 - 10/14/05 at 15:50:38
 
Gex,

Listen to 60!
This point is well discussed on other fora. Another point worth noting is that removing those lowest freqs from your main set is like giving them running shoes, instead of giant puddle jumper work boots. The will do thier job easier with less distortion.
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Reply #14 - 10/14/05 at 18:40:26
 
[quote author=gexter  link=1127934171/0#10 date=1129296425]Hey Match what makes up a Cadillac version? I will be making a WO32 this winter.
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Best of everything, including piano black finish.  I just don't have the skills to build my own.  I still have to hire someone to build it for me, so I might as well get Ziggy to do it.  I admire you guys that have the skills, and the tools.  I would guess tools are needed, right?  Oh, and learning how to tell the difference between a right angle and a circle.  Is there glue involved?  Maybe a hammer?
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gexter
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Reply #15 - 10/14/05 at 19:09:14
 
LOL
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gexter
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Reply #16 - 10/14/05 at 19:21:26
 
Well I believe you guys, it just that he is looking at $1000 for 7Hz I just don't see it as practical.
I am not saying that if a person has the money he should'nt. I would not pay $1000 for 7 Hz
I can get 7 Hz for much cheaper than that.
I do realize the sound?feeling differance its the price that makes me say "practical" I don't know if you guys get my point.

I can tell the diff between 28 and 20 but how much am I ( myself ) willing to pay for it.
I just got to hear/feel 13-16Hz at least 100db or better. took a couple days for my ears to go back to normal and one day for for me to stop feeling sick to my stomach. We used two big SV subs to do it.

Must be getting old.

Gex,
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playntheblues
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Reply #17 - 10/16/05 at 12:44:30
 
You guys keep talking about building these subs yourself for 50 - 200 dollars. WOW where did you find the amps Soooooo cheap  ;D lol.  Guys when I say $1,000.00 thats a ruff guess that includes amps shipping etcl etcl.
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gexter
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Reply #18 - 10/16/05 at 14:14:56
 
you wanna know cheap.
My 5 1/4 WO is driven by a single channel of a pioneer HT receiver that was throwing the garbage and the one channel was shorting it out. I removed the one bad shorted channel and usea $20 diskman or my sons Nomad  and a surplus $5.95 crossover at 80Hz

thats my sub that I use in my trailer while its parked in my back yard. My son and I use it for our escape zone to get away from all the females in the house.  

thats cheap.

I go through dumpster at repair shops and sometime I fix it and sometimes I don't. other times I remove the good stuff for my parts bins.
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playntheblues
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Reply #19 - 10/16/05 at 15:18:59
 
Your the king, thats great
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gexter
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Reply #20 - 10/16/05 at 17:13:41
 
Only in my own mind Smiley
I am breaking all my rule of use reuse with my WO32. Not even recycled screws in that baby.

by the way sorry I could not get you the answer that you needed
Gex
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Reply #21 - 10/16/05 at 17:48:21
 
[quote author=playntheblues  link=1127934171/15#17 date=1129463070]You guys keep talking about building these subs yourself for 50 - 200 dollars. WOW where did you find the amps Soooooo cheap  ;D lol.  Guys when I say $1,000.00 thats a ruff guess that includes amps shipping etcl etcl. [/quote]

If you have Radials, why are you not considering the Radial Subwoofer? Just curious.
Depending on where you live, shipping on a WO32 is going to cut deeply into your $1000 budget if it has to go very far. You might save $$ by getting the plans and engaging the services of a local cabinet maker.

Gex,

We are all in awe! Grin
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homeyhomes
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Reply #22 - 10/27/05 at 05:44:33
 
Match....Yeah Tools ARE required...you hit the nail
right on the head.  Also it helps if you have some good
noodles inside that other Head.

I'm thinking of building a 2nd WO & stacking it.
Four 10" drivers, 2 Horn mouths joining in unison.
Smaller than 1 SO
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Reply #23 - 10/30/05 at 18:58:58
 
1000 dollars doesn't buy much in the retail market these days.I,ve looked at subs in PE that go for 6-750 and are a square box,a single driver and an amp so a 1000 for a WO32 that is professonally built and finish is not out of perspective.Lets face it some have the time and no money others have the money and no time,it's a trade off in todays world.
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