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brad
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Re: Audio Nirvana's
Reply #15 - 09/24/05 at 09:10:11
 
I've seriously thought about "getting gelled" and may still do so. It's just I heard a definite improvement in the sound with the alternate tuning even with the un-gelled drivers.  I'm a little afraid of screwing up the sound with a mod that is not reversible, that is without getting a new pair of drivers which is not cheap.  On the other hand I'm VERY curious how they sound given Steve says they sound better.

Here's one quick tweak you can easily try if you have the alternate tuning in place and want to see at least what the added driver mass makes to the sound.  Stick 2" strips of electrical tape onto the driver in four places - at 12, 3, 6, and 9 O'clock. Don't worry, the electrical tape comes off without messing up the driver cone.  The tape strips should go out radially from the cone center to the outer edge like the hands of a clock.  I don't know how much mass the gel wax adds, but it's probably more than 4 strips of tape - so you can add more mass by making the four strips 3 or 4 layers of tape each before applying them to the cone.

Now, I'm sure this will not sound exactly like the gel-wax, especially since it probably won't effect the midrange much. But it may change the bass sound, and might mellow out the high end a bit.  I'm not sure, as I haven't had the time yet to play with this.


By the way, regarding the Deflex material... partsconnexion has many more shapes, sizes, and prices on it than does Madisound.
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zinker
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Re: Audio Nirvana's
Reply #16 - 09/27/05 at 17:49:57
 
Thanks for the measurement Corey. Smiley I checked the template that came with my HDT kit and it shows closer to 7 3/4" vertically from hole edge to hole edge and 4 3/4" horizontally.

Now I am really scratching my head ???
Could this explain my lack of bass.

Ziggy? Steve? Beuller?

If my cut outs are too big, what about the possibillity of cutting some 1/4" masonite panels with the proper size cutouts and mounting them to the inside divider panels? I could  make them in 2 pieces to allow me to fit them thru the driver hole.  After I test them I could glue them well so they don't rattle.
What do you guys think?

John
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brad
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Reply #17 - 09/27/05 at 19:54:34
 
I don't think this small difference in hole size is going to change things much but Ziggy should confirm.
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Mike W
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Re: Audio Nirvana's
Reply #18 - 11/02/05 at 13:27:48
 
[quote author=Corey  link=1127402301/0#5 date=1127441863]Brad,

I am going to be keeping one slut stock for a while and comparing the drivers i.e.:

FE206E alt. tuned vs. FE206E stock

Nirvana alt. tuned vs. FE206E stock

FE206E alt. tuned vs. Nirvana stock

Nirvana alt. tuned vs. Nirvana stock

Which ever one I like best I keep. Steve seems to be on to something when he designs speakers using only one. I have found things to be very simple this way and the ability to disappear is either yes or no. It is very black and white in mono.

Corey [/quote]

Corey....have you finsihed this eval yet????? or did I just overlook it.
Very interested in your findings.
Regards,
Mike
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Corey
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Reply #19 - 11/02/05 at 16:08:02
 
Mike,

After Decfest I learned that Steve modded the driver with a phase plug so their would be more involved than just getting a $118 driver shipped to me and ready to go.

I did compare the standard tuning to the alternate tuning and the standard tuning is not even in the same league as far a congestion goes. Although the improved bass is a bonus it is the mids and highs that grab your attention with this mod. The seperation of information is much better.

Take care,

Corey
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brad
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Reply #20 - 11/02/05 at 17:07:05
 
[quote author=Corey  link=1127402301/15#19 date=1130947682]Mike,

After Decfest I learned that Steve modded the driver with a phase plug so their would be more involved than just getting a $118 driver shipped to me and ready to go.

I did compare the standard tuning to the alternate tuning and the standard tuning is not even in the same league as far a congestion goes. Although the improved bass is a bonus it is the mids and highs that grab your attention with this mod. The seperation of information is much better.

Take care,

Corey [/quote]


Yep. That's my read of the alternate tuning as well.  I would like to hear the gel-wax mod.
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Corey
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Reply #21 - 11/03/05 at 03:32:51
 
I will report on the gel drivers when I get my amp back.

Corey
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brad
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Reply #22 - 11/03/05 at 05:46:16
 
Corey, which amp, and what's he doin' to it? Curious.
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crazy bill the eel killer
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Reply #23 - 11/04/05 at 02:46:06
 
hey guys,
you've got me psyched to try the alternate tuning. I' m a little concerned about the gel wax though, as a mass increase equates to s sensitivity decrease, and I really don't want to lose any. Have you guys with the gel wax mods noticed an AUDIBLE decrease in sensitivity?

Thanks,                 Bill
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Corey
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Reply #24 - 11/04/05 at 03:50:05
 
SE34-I.

Just sweeten it up a tad. My choice of music demands it.

Corey



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Hrappur
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Re: Audio Nirvana's
Reply #25 - 11/04/05 at 12:35:52
 
[quote author=crazy bill the eel killer  link=1127402301/15#23 date=1131072366]hey guys,
you've got me psyched to try the alternate tuning. I' m a little concerned about the gel wax though, as a mass increase equates to s sensitivity decrease, and I really don't want to lose any. Have you guys with the gel wax mods noticed an AUDIBLE decrease in sensitivity?

Thanks,                 Bill [/quote]
Well Steve sugests´a 1db loss in sensitivity
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teepeeworks
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Re: Audio Nirvana's
Reply #26 - 01/03/06 at 23:03:46
 
Instead of getting my drivers gelled I am going to take a listen to the Audio Nirvana speakers now with the Alternate tuned kit.

Take care,

Corey
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