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Message started by Steve Deckert on 09/15/16 at 06:03:51

Title: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/15/16 at 06:03:51

I've posted a video at the top of the forum of an experiment I am presently engaged in... like I need another distraction this close to DECFEST  ;)



Above is a still shot I took during one of the experiments I'm doing with photographing sound inside a single drop of water. The frequency was 528Hz and the amplifier was a Zen Triode.  As experimenting ramps up this winter, I'll be using a TORII Jr because I need more power to get high frequencies.  

While as you might expect, different frequencies will create different geometric patterns, but I am first focusing solely on one frequency and changing only the size of the water droplet and the amplitude of the signal to see what the range of patterns are.

The drop of water is placed inside a bowl sized to hold exactly one drop so that when the drop is placed inside the bowl it can become either a sphere or a hemisphere depending on how much water I use.

Anyway, I though this little teaser might be of interest to some of you. I plan to take this same 3 minute video and create a second video where explain what's happening and point out the similarities between what you see here, and what actually happens in your room, as the two are hauntingly similar.

What you see in the water is almost exactly what happens within the boundaries that create your listening space. You can watch the boundaries of the visible pattern become pressurized when the volume is increased and in turn cause new patterns to emerge as a way of dealing with the pressure.

I believe every frequency played in a listening room creates an instantaneous spherical geometric pattern that the fills the room almost exactly the way you see it work inside the water droplet.

Anyway, for those who might find it fun not to wait for the full explanation, there is perhaps an hour of knowledge about acoustics in this 3 minute experiment, especially if you begin to study and compare frames.

I have already found out that these experiments will have another benefit in that they allow me to see harmonic distortion levels of the amplifier, particular tubes, and the source with far more information than I get from my distortion analyzer and scope.

The image here was 0.7% THD  The pattern becomes unrecognizable at around 20%.

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/15/16 at 14:56:00

I love this post, Steve, and I totally get it. I've been posting these videos trying to use them to explain dropouts and hot-spots and why room treatment is so important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w

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Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/15/16 at 14:57:16


And this one is just fun to watch.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENITui5_jU


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by beowulf on 09/15/16 at 23:12:49

Don't forget this one .. the music is cool too (especially on Decware gear!)
https://youtu.be/Q3oItpVa9fs

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by TubeNube on 09/16/16 at 03:17:59

Fascinating subject, Steve. Points out the complexity of what we are hearing - also the complexity of good design of components and room treatments. Keep us informed w/your future experiments, esp. incorporating this knowledge into design of room treatments.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/16/16 at 04:40:27

I think the biggest initial takeaway from this is going to be that the concept that sound travels in waves from your speaker to the walls and then reflects off those walls in waves is completely irrelevant and misleading.



The above visual is basically meaningless.  Sure this is what happens in the first few micro-seconds before the sound wave encounters it's first boundary...  what people need to realize is how fast sound reflects around the room.  No one can.  Instead there is this instantaneous (to us) pattern filling the entire room for every frequency that exists simultaneously in the listening space.  imagine 20,000 of these patterns squared as they multiplex out across the dynamic range of amplitude.  Hundreds of millions of nodes and anti-nodes with an equal number of edie currents of air that rotate and spiral around through the matrix.  It's not hard to see why there are magic pressure levels for any given music in any given space.

Trust me, this is going to be enlightening. It begins to explain the shape of the human ear, vs. a microphone diaphragm.

The complexity of sound is akin to nothing. Sound is what stalls energy and patterns it into matter, so to think of it only as waves is pretty non-productive. Since sound is what underpins the universe and all reality, it seems reasonable to suggest it spans all 144 dimensions as opposed to being expressed as air pressure waves that exist only in the 3rd dimension as science might suggest.  

-Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/16/16 at 15:17:46


Fantastic thinking, Steve! I'm 100% with you on this!

Also, is there a way I can share the video on Facebook?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 09/16/16 at 17:33:40

I also wonder how much sensation from your skin also adds to what we hear. Like a strong bass note that you feel?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/16/16 at 19:23:59


I've always been with the mind that ultra high frequency is *felt*, and we can and do "hear" beyond the 20Hz to 20kHz.

I think part of why I still hear so well, and pick out things others miss, is that I'm more in tune with these ultra high sounds. It effects how I sense space in life, as well as in recordings. I think most people are tuned out on it, like when you live near train tracks but no longer hear the train.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 09/16/16 at 21:00:21

I also wonder about the effect of removing other sensations while listening? How many turn the lights down low and get comfortable before listening?
And I know that the drinkers and dopers out there say that imbibing opens up their senses.
Right now I'm drinking a glass of lukewarm water, have about half of a headache and am fighting off a cold. Everything sounds like shit.  

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Syd on 09/16/16 at 21:20:16

I`m so glad Steve designed and built my amps. My mind cant articulate the complexities of sound through speech, just a jumble of theories which are only maybes because I dont have the proofs or time required and tools at hand to get the truer explanations. Steve post is Zen-like and that angle is, when you think about it, quite cosmic. Wheels within wheels and the patterns of vibrations.
I wonder if our ears take energy from the waves and therefore help the decay process, like a vibration control draining unwanted vibrations away. Do sound waves seek out ears like a magnet.
Thats what happen when I trip out to these deeper meanings. More question than answers.   :)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/17/16 at 03:19:33

Here is another sound drop I took tonight with a secondary UV light source.  Same frequency.



Steve  :)


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by TubeNube on 09/17/16 at 04:44:15

Hey Steve,

The more I think about this, the cooler it seems to me. I'm thinking that the only real-world way to design room treatments using this knowledge is to have a disc that sends out different tones that is picked up by a microphone (or a series of microphones) in someone's listening room. Those tones would be recorded, and then decoded by a wizard (such as yourself) to design types and placement of different room treatments. (I know that there are programs existing like Audessey that help set eq levels for the components, but I am thinking specifically about designing room treatments for optimal sound in a given room).  Am I thinking along the right lines? And when can we expect the disc/software? C'mon, Steve, what's the holdup?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/18/16 at 05:29:37

We need to ask aqua man if diffusers work under water an build an experiment to see how the pattern changes with the addition of tiny diffusers. Or we can just look ahead into the future and watch the experiment happen and see that the addition of diffusion along the boundaries' biggest contribution is a delay in the formation of the next pattern by probably around 3dB. So you get to listen to a better focused and simpler flower pattern with some empty space around it.

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 09/18/16 at 19:54:27

Diamonds in that picture Steve!  Wonderful!

Cor

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Archie on 09/19/16 at 01:12:05

Pink Floyd fans are already familiar with this type of picture, just look at the cover of Meddle.   :D

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 09/20/16 at 23:41:13

I'm wondering if this phenomenon would change with the viscosity of the liquid?
Would a light oil propagate the waves different? Boundary layer stuff,hysteresis etc...
I've hit my head on the ground way too many times since I was in school!

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/22/16 at 03:28:46


OK, next test will be with things other than water.   ;)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Archie on 09/22/16 at 17:46:35


Quote:
I'm wondering if this phenomenon would change with the viscosity of the liquid?
Would a light oil propagate the waves different? Boundary layer stuff,hysteresis etc...
I've hit my head on the ground way too many times since I was in school!


I would assume that viscosity, density and other properties of the liquid would have to relate to the frequency used if the goal is to understand sound in air.  The usual stuff one adjusts for when doing scale modeling.  I'm guessing that frequences used would be shifted down -- or is it up?  What did Captain Kirk have Uhura do in Star Trek the Journey Home?   ;)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/26/16 at 05:09:45

I did some additional tests this evening using substances other than water.

The first alternate fluid was saline (0.9% NaCi). The Saline was similar to water but different.  It took more energy to launch it into a pattern and less energy to bring it outside it's comfort zone.

The second was synthetic tape machine oil.  Nothing.  Could not get it to do anything.

Third was back to saline and dropped the frequency by 10 to 52Hz.

I'll post the pictures soon.

I also took a video at this low frequency because you have to see what happens with the circulation of the solution inside the drop at different volumes!  Fascinating.

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/26/16 at 18:28:16


re: machine oil - you probably had surface tension working against you.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Archie on 09/26/16 at 19:28:36


Quote:
re: machine oil - you probably had surface tension working against you.


Or, working for you, in the case of water.  I don't think oil has surface tension.  Maybe the effect is seen in the "skin" of surface tension?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Archie on 09/26/16 at 19:34:29

Another thought is that the surface tension is causing a resonant response depending on the "stiffness" of the surface tension which acts like a spring.  Too much damping in the oil?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/26/16 at 20:27:24


Ah yeah, you're probably right.  (going to see if I can look it up somewhere)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/26/16 at 20:29:44

http://www.surface-tension.de/

Oooh, this one is even better - has viscosity as well.

https://www.accudynetest.com/visc_table.html




Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by mark58 on 09/26/16 at 20:38:54

LR, you're giving me nightmares of the Ghost of my Chemistry/Physics past ....:)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 09/26/16 at 23:05:59

I had a feeling that oil would damp itself out. Long chain molecules have a natural damping effect.
Now I would like to see what happens with some detergent in the water to lower the surface tension.
I like thinking about stuff like this, it makes my brain tingle.  

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 09/27/16 at 03:18:31

Steve,

Rather than waste your time earning your Ph.D in liquid viscosity diffusion, how about making a short YouTube video on how to build a P1312?

I am most interested in the cheapest materials to use.  Our wood shop deals primarily in spruce, pine and cedar.

Corey  :)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 03:50:48

I forgot to mention that I also tried 100% pure turpentine and it also did nothing.


Title: Sound Drops Saline Solution
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:09:41

As mentioned before, the Saline Solution took more power to flower and handles less. Here is the first pattern to appear:



I am zoomed out on these images to show the outer grooves that are located around the liquid drop. They will have water in them in later slides.


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:13:35

And here is the next pattern to appear at a slightly higher amplitude:








Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:16:26

Continuing a little higher it changes to this:






Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:19:45

and this with no change in amplitude... just two different images since the pattern is somewhat animated:



You can see here the pattern tightens up from increasing amplitude as show above, just before it pops to another pattern.


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:24:19

At this point I tried the other fluids (oil and turpentine) with zero patterns of any kind. Then I went back to Saline Solution and created a larger drop. This time the diameter of the drop is held in place by the first groove which you can no longer see. The second groove is also filled with solution.  With this larger drop this was the first usable pattern I could get out of it shown below:



Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:32:09

Then with an even larger increase in amplitude you get the fuzzy flower, also possible with water. Since it is impossible to focus because it IS in focus (that's a zen thing) I usually don't post these, however in this case it's good to see what it's breaking point looks like and the interesting surprise that formed in the outer groove!



Look at the complexity of that outer groove... you could levitate a grain of sand in each one of those amber stones...  and of course let say you wanted to levitate a grain of sand in the center of just one stone or many... all you would have to do is push it and it would pop into the next node meaning you could move the grain of sand all the way around the ring.  Sorry I got distracted.

In fact if you look closely you can see the orifice between each node where the grain could pass through to the next node with zero resistance...  damn, still sorry.



Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:35:27

It is always easier to hold a pattern when dropping from a higher amplitude and since that last image was pretty much the speed limit, (in more ways than one) this is the next possible pattern. Again, it will not appear on the way up, only on the way down.



Note the outer ring is calm as the result of the amplitude drop.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 04:39:13

For PART II of this test, images will not work. You must see the actual video.  Prepare to have your mind blown.



I'll save that for tomorrow night.

Steve  ;)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 09/28/16 at 04:53:48

"I'll save that for tomorrow night."

Steve  ;)

Good to hear your going to make a P1312 video, thanks!  :)

Corey

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 09/28/16 at 04:56:28

You want your push-pull sales to go through the roof? Show us how to build some room treatments so we can crank it!

Corey

Title: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 05:28:09

PART II

Yea, I won't have time to deal with this tomorrow so you'll just have to wait until tomorrow to finish reading this post.

To see what happens to the drop's surface before the initial flower forms... I left small amounts of oil residue in the bowl from prior tests which then found it's way to the surface of the drop. Then I dropped the frequency by a factor of 10 to 52 Hz.

Starting at the lowest amplitude where the rotation just begins and then stepping it up about 4 or 5 times to see the effect on this rotation.

The instant sound hits the drop two counter-rotations appear on it's surface. The speed of these rotations increases with each amplitude increase. Faster and faster the rotation until who knows, it reach perhaps the speed of sound (get it) and then POP!  A huge surprise appears and a true metamorphosis occurs. You just have to see it to believe it.  

Here is a link to the raw video footage:

https://decware.wistia.com/medias/rr5ufqqr2p

-Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 05:47:20

So... now you know what happens on the surface before the first flower forms at 52Hz.  BTW, all of these tests are being done with a Zen UFO 2 watt amp bridged to achieve 6 watts in an effort to energize the droplet.  A true analog waveform generator is used to feed the frequency into the amplifier.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 09/28/16 at 06:01:55

Think about it... if an amplifier is good enough to do this to a drop of Saline, imagine what is happening inside your head and body which is mostly the same thing.  

Speaking about the head, an interesting parallel - in the video you may have just witnessed what it might be like when the left and right hemisphere of the brain achieve balance during meditation and become one... only while of course listening to a Decware amp.   [smiley=icqlite14.png]



Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 09/28/16 at 19:44:06


That's pretty amazing to watch...it's flowing like a fluid pump, then harmonizes with itself. Beautiful.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Brian on 09/28/16 at 20:46:46

I thank you, Steve for posting these beautiful pictures.
Perhaps the most interesting (confusing) for me is that a pattern formed as the amplitude was being decreased which did not exist when the amplitude was being increased.

A wonderful study.

Brian

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by JD on 09/28/16 at 22:33:59

Steve,

What a fantastic experiment and venture! So fkn cool. You've totally piqued my interest. I feel like i'm seeing an unbelievable visual of fusion in action. I wonder how the results would change depending on the amount  of NaCl in the solution? Get those two nuclei to meld and somehow control the energy and not only have you expanded the principles of sound but also managed to figure out some of the most ambiguous principles of fusion.

Well done

JD

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by TubeNube on 09/29/16 at 08:05:48

Steve,
I just watched the video. I feel like the universe is trying to tell us something. Don't vaporize yourself in the process - we need you to stay right where you are. (Uh, no pun intended about vaporizing).
Randy

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 10/18/16 at 05:41:02

If you think the universe is trying to tell us something with that video... wait until you see what happened this week... when instead of injecting a pure tone into the water droplet, I injected a sacred harmonic from a 19th century bowl from Nepal...



Here is the video:  https://decware.wistia.com/medias/x281q8zzsf

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 10/18/16 at 05:44:08

If that doesn't trip you out I don't know what will!  I be curious how many times you have to watch it ?

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Brian on 10/18/16 at 18:39:29

I watched it three times. It does look like it makes faces.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Syd on 10/19/16 at 20:19:36

Reminds me of why they have the looong rings and the `OM` chants,.... mandalas .....the land of Astral projection.  Are you willing to journey to the unknown   :o  

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Dom on 10/20/16 at 03:51:38

Wow...freaky video.  Imagine if one was tripping on a mushroom?  

When I used to take Juijutsu, we used to meditate to some really cool stuff like the Gregorian Chants and various harmonics.  

Those were my original Zen days.....now my Zen days are spent enjoying my Decware infused music!! ;)

Steve... trying shooting the video with plain distilled water first....then let the saline droplet hit the water surface while the video is rolling.  Make sure the saline drop is a high concentration...like 1.025 SG (Specific Gravity)..... which is considered natural seawater levels at the surface.  

With my saltwater fish tank...I always get a kick out of watching the water dispersion when I top off my tank with fresh water.  

With saltwater fish tanks... when the water evaporates.... the salt says.  If you top up the fish tank everytime with with saltwater....your SG will constantly increase.  That's bad for the fish and will eventually kill them.  

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 10/25/16 at 13:50:04

Steve,

Greetings. What happens at 60hz, vs.  528?

Can you still get purple UV diamonds?


Inquisitive minds want to be reminded of Marriage!  :)

Sincerely,

Corey

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/07/16 at 03:21:28

When I tried the 52 Hz, the water just flows in a toroidal pattern until the last volume increase where it pops into a pattern of larger squares.  60 Hz would be no different I suspect as you have to get into the lower midrange frequencies (human voice) to get the tighter patterns.

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/25/16 at 00:26:12


I've updated the Saline Drop Video - worth watching again for sure.  This is the 52Hz video.



https://decware.wistia.com/medias/rr5ufqqr2p

:)


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 11/25/16 at 01:59:31

Ok, now I'm thinking some more about different mediums again. How would alcohol work? Don't waste your booze, try antifreeze. A lot of antifreezes have additives that make the water "wetter", kind of hard to explain, just think of fluid dispersement additives. Plus antifreeze comes in cool colors.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/25/16 at 03:29:36

I have tried alcohol and got no results, at least not at these volumes and amplitudes.  My interest in this is primarily how water reacts to sound. Water represents life.  To have consciousness you ultimately first have to have sound and then water followed by time.  

When I first learned of Dr. Masaru Emoto's experiments with water, consciousness & intent, I started taking sound quite a bit more seriously than just a fun hobby.

Here is a video that documents his experiments.  Hang with it, it's a slow starter, but well worth sticking it out.  https://youtu.be/PDW9Lqj8hmc

CHeers!

Steve




Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/25/16 at 04:36:28

Well happy Thanksgiving to all! I know I have had a great holiday spending time with family and later this evening with sound drops!

So here's what happened,... after updating the 52Hz video I started researching 52Hz and discovered the lonely whale! (Google 52 lonely whale) I then found a recording of it and used that for tonights sound drop test. Wanted to compare the difference between the 52Hz whale song vs. Steve's test bench frequency generator set to 52Hz. The differences were vast to those who study the video in slow motion... resulting in the whale song producing a human face peering through a window from a different dimension... so I guess that is in fact the difference ;)



Here is tonights video: https://decware.wistia.com/medias/6vu6x7op4u

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/25/16 at 06:33:46

I have to make a comment about the "face" in the final frames of the video...  I watched it again myself and the face went away!!!  I actually wanted to blame variable compression algorithms for distorting the  image and then realized people are going to think I've lost it...  great.  

Then I froze the video and just look at it in disbelief that the face was gone, and it appeared and then got sharply focused....  OK I'm not crazy, but obviously human.  If you don't see the face, leave it on the screen and pear at it until you do... it's like one of those optical puzzles.

God helps us , first it's firkin aliens and now it's faces.  

[smiley=tunes57.gif]

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/26/16 at 17:12:57

I've improved the resolution and frame rate of the test rig I use to create the sound drops and have set up a new test that sweeps a frequency band from 40Hz on up in 1 Hz increments spaced 1 second apart.  This way you can see all the shapes possible in a water drop based on pure tones.



There are two parts.  Here is part one:  https://decware.wistia.com/medias/molodpi8el

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Brian on 11/27/16 at 03:33:31

That face at the end of the whale song is so very real looking! I never know when you are kidding. If you did not paste that picture in there, that is really interesting.

Brian

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Donnie on 11/27/16 at 03:55:42

I'm planning on watching the video again with Pink Floyd playing! I might even double up my meds to further the effect.

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/27/16 at 04:23:13


Quote:
That face at the end of the whale song is so very real looking! I never know when you are kidding. If you did not paste that picture in there, that is really interesting.

Brian


Everything is on the up and up. Sound drops are completely serious and the videos and images are always untouched. So, yes it is fascinating and entertaining at the same time : )

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/27/16 at 04:26:32

I'm just finishing up the second part of the sweep videos, which I have to say are a beautiful thing to watch.  Should get it posted tomorrow sometime.

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 11/27/16 at 19:43:54

OK, Here is part 2



https://decware.wistia.com/medias/4qmf3rg5ti

Steve :)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Brian on 11/29/16 at 00:53:32

I thank you for the reply, Steve. These sound effects are wonderful, and weird.

Brian

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 12/01/16 at 06:29:54


It's fascinating and thought provoking at the same time.  So far I am not seeing any real difference between pure water and water with additives like salt, or anything that can remain in contact with the water droplet.  Oil, alcohol, turpentine were unable to produce any effects in this test bed.

I think as a point of reference, having the incremental 1Hz progression gives us the basis for more complex patterns like we see with the whale song.  

Now that we have the main frequencies up to  probably 1 Khz or more where I bailed out, I am interested to see what other patterns can be made from more complex sounds so I intend to try a few different things as time allows :)

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 12/22/16 at 18:56:15

I have added a counter that approximates the frequency to within a few Hz to both videos.  This is the second time I've done it.  The first time I had a brain dead moment and put a clock timer on the video knowing it would increment at 1 second intervals, which it did but then of course skips from 60 back to 0...  Nevertheless, I have something half way almost accurate in there now... it gets the job done.

Since some of the frequencies in this sweep are solfeggio and some are chakra it would be nice to know with great accuracy what the exact frequency is when you watch the videos.  I didn't think of this when I made the first two videos, I was too distracted by the hypnotic patterns the water was making that I didn't even think about it.

Also, I have so far listened to the experiment as it was being filmed... and had to bail out at about 950Hz during the second video because my head was getting ready to explode.  To see where the patterns wear off at these reasonable power levels (the same levels we experience in every day life) I will be wearing ear protection.  

And of course, I will film the frequency counter while the video is being made so we have absolutely exact frequencies reported during the video sweep.

One of the things I would like to try once we have exact numbers, is to show a pattern from a specific frequency and follow it with a pattern from a distant frequency to get the specific numbers, and then combine those two frequencies by playing them at the same time and seeing if we see both patterns or something else ; )

BTW, Happy New Year!

Steve


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Corey on 01/06/17 at 23:14:25

Just read this on the Ray Peat forum :

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/learned-helplessness-kmud-2013.9214/

Caller: Hi, I have a lot of questions, but I’ll ask a short one. I understand that there’s a doctor Horowitz among other people who claim that listening to sound at 528 hertz will heal DNA. What is your understanding of this?

Ray Peat: A good person to read on that issue would be Harold Hillman, who did experiments with it in England and got fired, or got retired prematurely. But it's definitely something that Russian research in the early 70s showed, that certain musical tones would cause muscle to increase its ATP production. And that was disregarded because the level of the energy in a given vibration was considered to be too small to exceed the thermal agitation of the molecules and the muscle. But, actually, the muscle is organized with long range structures in water, which form in effect an antenna that can receive sound waves of these very low energies. So it's physically very plausible, and verified by Harold Hillman.

Host: Excellent, as always. Thanks so much.

Caller: That's obviously not an emphatic yes, but you’re saying it's totally within the realm of possibility?

Ray Peat: Yes.

Caller: I thank you so much. Bye now.


Steve,

The purple diamonds at 528hz seemed quite spectacular.

Corey  :)

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 01/07/17 at 02:33:16

It's my understanding that on a cellular level, the body isn't 70% water, it's closer to 90% water. We know water has memory and that structured water is good for health. The more you study the science of water, it's memory, how it responds to sound frequencies - the more you begin to understand the importance of vibration. Vibration in one form is sound, in another is thought. Healing with sound is as far as I can see, possible, the key is knowing what frequencies to use and where.  

I'm still studying the whole thing but in the process of doing so, I've had my mind blown so many times I've lost count.

I've seen a single DNA strand in water, which remembered it, recorded with an antenna/microphone into a computer sound file transmitted to another country where the sound file was played back with a loudspeaker/transducer into a test tube with water and Nucleotides only. Guess what happened? A DNA molecule was assembled by the sound in the water containing Nucleotides and a telomere then both the original DNA and the newly generated DNA were sent to independent labs and found to have a 99% match.  

I'm still processing that one... but it's safe to say that we have all been raised to think water is just simply H20 and sound is simply music, and both are FAR more than that.  


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by mark58 on 01/07/17 at 02:55:04

Steve, "Shockwave Therapy" or using sound waves for treatment of various ailments has been around for decades.  The most common being for treating  plantar fasciitis  and breaking Kidney Stones apart but it's been used successfully for other musculoskeletal disorders as well.  Yes sound is healing or therapeutic in many ways. As folks know here, I call my listening sessions "Vinyl Therapy".  Mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns2LPL3zM3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp9h2JyCmY4

http://www.webmd.com/kidney-stones/extracorporeal-shock-wave-lithotripsy-eswl-for-kidney-stones

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lonely Raven on 01/08/17 at 16:38:20


Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 02/16/17 at 04:34:09

Here at the top of the forum, I have organized all the sound drop videos into a group so that you can watch them in successive order as an automatic function of watching the first one.

Since the last sound drop videos, I have been researching structured water and am looking forward to conducting a test to see what changes might be noticed between regular bottled water and structured water.  Of course before I could do this, I had to make a device to structure water.  Of course before I could do that I had to figure out which devices actually work and which ones actually don't.  Of course before I can complete that I have to have a way a measure the results without waiting to see how well plants grow with it.  I'm now focusing on a way to measure the Higgs boson field so I can have a meter that shows the difference between the two waters... then I'll make the next sound drop video so if you don't see me for a while, enjoy the videos that ARE done.

Steve



Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Steve Deckert on 07/14/17 at 01:36:19

Today I had a revelation that triggered a vision involving sound drops. If you study the videos I've posted carefully and methodically you are no doubt fascinated how sound (vibrations/waves) can create squares within a circle. Well, it turns out that when you watch the square blocks appear in the round drop of water you are actually witnessing how the stone blocks were cut for the Great Pyramid.

While studying the pictorial diagram from one of the world's best remote viewers, where the target was the mining of the stone blocks for the Giza pyramid, I actually was able to combine the image of the sound drops making squares and the drawing of the remote viewer to watch in my minds eye blocks actually being cut and levitated.  Since this isn't an everyday thing for me, my head nearly exploded.  I even saw all the colors... it was like watching 20 seconds of high def close up video footage.

For those of you who think I've lost it, I first refer you to the topic of "remote viewing".  Then when you understand how that works and why our government funded it, watch this video:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJz0mm8cSt4

At 38:48 hit pause.  I'm sure you'll see the connection.

Steve

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by DB2 on 07/14/17 at 01:45:01

"Since the last sound drop videos, I have been researching structured water...."

How close are we to Ice Nine?

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Brian on 07/14/17 at 04:49:59

How horrible. The Praying Mantis "Mother" being described as kindly reminds me of how farmers are often kindly disposed toward their livestock.  The draft horse is given a name and kept in a warm dry stable, fed the best grain; but owned, and worked.  


That expose in the second hour sounds like a close agreement to the Ra teaching in Carla Ruekert's "Law of One" books.  http://www.llresearch.org/library.aspx


Brian

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by stone_of_tone on 07/14/17 at 15:44:21

Right there with you Steve. Remote viewing, cut & levitated. I'm 30 mins. in on the video....I will finish tonight.  I'm glad we are both comfortable at this stage in our lives......to recognize the truth of these matters......... .

Title: Re: Sound Drops
Post by Lon on 12/04/17 at 18:36:47

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